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How do YOU classify the Soul?

  • Economy car?

    Votes: 7 9%
  • Wagon?

    Votes: 19 24%
  • CUV (compact utility vehicle)?

    Votes: 26 33%
  • SUV (sport utility vehicle)?

    Votes: 7 9%
  • Small trucklet?

    Votes: 0 0%
  • A "statement" vehicle?

    Votes: 11 14%
  • Other?

    Votes: 8 10%
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it's an suv to me. i parked next to a Ford Escape today. Same size. Even the length. I think the Escape was maybe an inch or two taller.

i park next to smaller suvs a lot like the Escape amd Rav4....very similar in size, length, width, height, etc.

i don't see how the soul is a wagon or a little hatchback. it's too big to be a hatchback. imo, a hatchback is something like the rio5 or volkswagon golf/tdi.

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When I get mine I'll call it a wagon, which is what I want. This is the closest thing out there under the price of the German makes or Subarus. I could care less of the look or height, I want rear legroom and cargo space.
 
When I get mine I'll call it a wagon, which is what I want. This is the closest thing out there under the price of the German makes or Subarus. I could care less of the look or height, I want rear legroom and cargo space.
KIA's classification in the VIN number (6th digit) is a wagon 4x2 Class B. :)
 
I always just classified it as a hatchback. It's definitely larger than most hatchbacks like the fit, gti, mazda3, focus, etc though.
It's taller than those cars, but not really "larger" in any other meaningful sense (except back seat space :) ). It's a far cry from a SUV. Low ground clearance, a tiny cargo hold, no available 4WD/AWD, etc. ad nauseum.
 
It's taller than those cars, but not really "larger" in any other meaningful sense (except back seat space :) ). It's a far cry from a SUV. Low ground clearance, a tiny cargo hold, no available 4WD/AWD, etc. ad nauseum.
For many people, what they want is the "look", the semiotics, of an SUV. Functionality doesn't matter. I was shocked once when I rented a Rav4 in CA (expecting snow on Siskiyou Pass) and found after I was on the road that it wasn't the 4wd version. Naive me thought 4wd was what defined an SUV! RickB is their customer, someone who believes the look of their car is an extension of themselves. This is the reason wagons are basically unavailable in the US despite their practicality, along with minivans they're perceived to declare domestication rather than cool, machismo or independence. I've lived in the city my whole adult life, and usually had used, practical, beater, "city" cars. My identity is defined in many ways, but MY CAR IS NOT ME!
 
a car doesnt need awd/4wd to be a SUV.
Well, the lack of AWD availability is definitely a strong hint that this car is no SUV. Add in its underpinnings, suspension, size, ground clearance, payload capacity, "no towing recommended", etc., etc., etc. and you have yourself a vehicle that is decidedly not a CUV or SUV.

We can agree to disagree for sure. I just don't see a single characteristic other than its boxy shape to suggest SUV. Even KIA.com lists it as a car, not a crossover.
 
My window sticker says "Small station wagon" I don't think that was stated just for me so I assume all souls are "Small station wagons". If you step back and observe the soul, inside, out and underneath what do you think? Could it be a "Small station wagon"?
 
My window sticker says "Small station wagon" I don't think that was stated just for me so I assume all souls are "Small station wagons". If you step back and observe the soul, inside, out and underneath what do you think? Could it be a "Small station wagon"?
I still call it a hatch, but it fits the bill of a small wagon much more than a sport utility. Kia.com calls it a car in one place, an urban crossover in another and a multipurpose vehicle in yet another place. So even they're confused, LOL.
 
I still call it a hatch, but it fits the bill of a small wagon much more than a sport utility. Kia.com calls it a car in one place, an urban crossover in another and a multipurpose vehicle in yet another place. So even they're confused, LOL.
I don't think KIA is confused at all, it's them trying to attract confused customers who can't come to terms with what they want vs what they need, and look at labels rather than what the vehicle can do for them. There was a review of a large SUV in the NY Times recently that said basically that the whole point of this vehicle was to be a 3 rows minivan without actually "being" a minivan, and it failed at being a very effective vehicle in either identity. But they know their customers.

If I could push a button and modify the Soul, I'd shorten the height by 3-6" and lengthen the cargo area by 6-12". But then it would lose all the people who want it to make the "hatchback" or "SUV" statement because it would look more like a wagon.
 
I don't think KIA is confused at all, it's them trying to attract confused customers who can't come to terms with what they want vs what they need, and look at labels rather than what the vehicle can do for them. There was a review of a large SUV in the NY Times recently that said basically that the whole point of this vehicle was to be a 3 rows minivan without actually "being" a minivan, and it failed at being a very effective vehicle in either identity. But they know their customers.

If I could push a button and modify the Soul, I'd shorten the height by 3-6" and lengthen the cargo area by 6-12". But then it would lose all the people who want it to make the "hatchback" or "SUV" statement because it would look more like a wagon.
Yes and you would have what Toyota did with the Scion XB and it would end up like the XB in oblivion. If you like that style perhaps you could find a Chrysler Pacifica.
 
idk guys...it's similar in size to other small suvs. to me, it isnt necessarily about function, bit more about looks.

if you changed the 4wd to a fwd in a "true" suv...that immediately unclassifies it as an suv? the Soul looks like an suv to me, and that's partly why i chose it.

i loved the high seating, box/square shape, and "sportiness" potential. it reminded me of driving my old explorer, except with much better gas mileage and less hatch space.

i call it an suv, it doesnt look anything like a wagon and it's taller than any hatchback out.

i guess i just have a different definition of what a suv is lol

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idk guys...it's similar in size to other small suvs. to me, it isnt necessarily about function, bit more about looks.

if you changed the 4wd to a fwd in a "true" suv...that immediately unclassifies it as an suv? the Soul looks like an suv to me, and that's partly why i chose it.

i loved the high seating, box/square shape, and "sportiness" potential. it reminded me of driving my old explorer, except with much better gas mileage and less hatch space.

i call it an suv, it doesnt look anything like a wagon and it's taller than any hatchback out.

i guess i just have a different definition of what a suv is lol

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No, I think you have EXACTLY the definition of most SUV buyers, basing it on looks almost entirely. I don't know what "sportiness potential is". I once spent 3 weeks camping & whitewater kayaking in Idaho with a roof rack full of boats on a beat up 87 Maxima, many hours of travel on dirt roads and all. Sporty? I've seen Jetta's with 2 canoes on top spread far wider than the car. As Forrest Gump would say: sporty is as sporty does. I laugh at the folks who view a roof rack as a fashion accessory rather than a necessity.
 
My first priority has always been looks first, function second, (did not serve me so well in my marriage) anyway, the soul is not the most beautifully styled car but not bad and serves me well with easy ingress, egress and plenty of hatch access for supplies. I'd really like a series 1 Jag XKE coupe or even a Triumph TR6 but, oh well.
 
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