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Annual U.S. Soul Sales Doesn't Bode Well

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#1 ·
These numbers according to ChatGPT so take it with a grain of salt but it doesn't seem to be going in the right direction if you want to see the Soul stick around.
200931,621
201067,110
2011102,267
2012115,778
2013118,079
2014145,316
2015147,133
2016145,768
2017115,712
2018104,709
201998,033
202071,862
202175,126
202257,820
202361,263
202452,397
 
#4 ·
One of the things that has hurt the Soul sales is Kia pushing up the price point. When I bought both of mine in 2012, the only cheaper car on the market was the Nissan Versa and the Chevy Aveo, and both of those cars drove and looked like junk, with felt carpeting, rock hard seats, pathetic 3 cylinder engines, etc. The Soul easily competed with the Honda Fit and Toyota Yaris, drove better with better options and was several thousand less. Now the Soul barebones with destination is about 22500, and that puts it a lot closer to a lot of other vehicles that are just nicer vehicles.

There is always going to be a market for a reliable, reasonably comfortable car that's cheaper than anything else out there. I think Kia is making a mistake ceding that ground. They want to be Toyota but there's already a Toyota.
 
#5 ·
It's obvious the reason for this.

It's the pricing. A soul is what 25k to start now a days likely closer to 30k for most people. For a little more you can get a better vehicle with awd and a better manufacturer rep.

When I bought my 2011 it was 11k new which is why I bought it. I see no point in buying expensive cars as they depreciate fast and I'm not trying to impress anybody. It just gets me from a to b

But now I'm going to have to spend 30-40k on a new car so I'd rather look into more reliable cars.
lets be honest kias reputation is in the toilet after the past few years.
 
#6 ·
I don't know if in the toilet is exactly right, though there's been some bad press with some of the engine problems and the stolen cars and such. I still think they're great cars overall (Souls and Kia in general) but absolutely they're killing themselves with higher prices. When you're financing a car - which is what most people do - there's virtually no difference in a few thousand dollars between 25 and 30k in a payment that's running 6 or 7 or 8 years. Once you are pushing 30k there's a lot of vehicle options out there besides a small FWD Soul.
 
#12 ·
continuing....
Turn signal lights in mirror housings, fog lamps. Taking more off the car, charging more for it. Too much technology in "media center", self drive, etc.
If you're too lazy to put your hands on the wheel, let your wife drive.