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Yep. Both mine and my wife's use oil. I just got approved for a new engine yesterday, after several months of back and forth. Once mine is complete, I'm dropping off my wife's for them to start.
How did you get them to replace it? Mine just seized up and they denied the repair even though it's related to the recall.
 
How did you get them to replace it? Mine just seized up and they denied the repair even though it's related to the recall.
In your case, your only hope is to contact that Kia corporate customer care hotline.
What year is your car and what engine, 1.6L or 2.0L? How many miles are on it? Did they tell you what happened to the engine and why it died? Sorry for 20 questions, but they’re important details needed to be able to answer your questions.

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I just saw your other post (here), I’ll move this thread into the gen 3 forum and edit the title to include the model year because the recall on your car is different than the gen 2s.

I’m not sure this recall even went “live” yet if we’re talking about the piston oil ring recall, but I’m not positive on that. Still would like to know what the dealer said is wrong with the engine. If it’s not related to the piston oil rings, it won’t be covered by that recall (SC336).

You can also try contacting Kia Customer Care at 800-333-4KIA (4542), or send them a message at the link below.

I hate to sound mean or rude, but I wish you wouldn't keep phrasing it "they denied the repair". If this was any other brand of car you would be 100% on your own. You are out of warranty with a seized engine. Your failure may or may not be related to the piston ring recall. Someone will likely have to pay for an engine teardown to be sure. I caution that might initially be you.

But if is true that your engine seized due the piston rings Kia is in the process of issuing a related recall for, I would be optimistic. Only because it is Kia.
 
In your case, your only hope is to contact that Kia corporate customer care hotline.


I hate to sound mean or rude, but I wish you wouldn't keep phrasing it "they denied the repair". If this was any other brand of car you would be 100% on your own. You are out of warranty with a seized engine. Your failure may or may not be related to the piston ring recall. Someone will likely have to pay for an engine teardown to be sure. I caution that might initially be you.

But if is true that your engine seized due the piston rings Kia is in the process of issuing a related recall for, I would be optimistic. Only because it is Kia.
I called the customer service line, and the representative told me she did not see where it was declined. She said they were in the process of reviewing it and it could take a little while. She suggested I call back every few days to check on the status. You did not sound rude at all. Very grateful for this forum. I do have hope that they will do the right thing.
 
This is a good explanation of why so many cars, not just Kia's are "burning" oil and experiencing piston ring and carbon issues. Worth 16 minutes of time for folks who don't know what's going on with today's engines.
 
This is a good explanation of why so many cars, not just Kia's are "burning" oil and experiencing piston ring and carbon issues. Worth 16 minutes of time for folks who don't know what's going on with today's engines.
Thanks for posting this video.
 
He lost me right off the bat claiming OCI were always 3 months 3000miles. Thats 100% verifiable BULLSHIT. I got owners manuals from my '67 Galaxie saying 6month or 6000 miles ....and thats with the primitive oils from the '60s. I also have some from the '70s and '80s with 6/6000.
The 3/3000 crap started SOLELY from the quickie oil change chains in '79 or '80. Pure invention of marketing...look it up.
Then, he proves NOTHING. Using the phrases many times...."In my opinion...", "thats what I heard...", "this is what I think....", ZERO proof or scientific evidence to back up a single word he said. What a load of ****. Guys a mechanic NOT a tribologist or engineer. He also never mentions used oil analysis. Everything he says/claims is just "guesswork" at best, or he's a slick salesman trying to seem like 3/3000 changes are justified. Only way to PROVE oil is bad and actually needs changing at 3/3000 is by ACTUAL TESTING.

Oh and the fact he has a man bun, let alone a 60+ year old with a man bun sure doesn't help. <ok, that was meant more to be funny then any crack at his credibility.;)>
 
He lost me right off the bat claiming OCI were always 3 months 3000miles. Thats 100% verifiable BULLSHIT. I got owners manuals from my '67 Galaxie saying 6month or 6000 miles ....and thats with the primitive oils from the '60s. I also have some from the '70s and '80s with 6/6000.
The 3/3000 crap started SOLELY from the quickie oil change chains in '79 or '80. Pure invention of marketing...look it up.
Then, he proves NOTHING. Using the phrases many times...."In my opinion...", "thats what I heard...", "this is what I think....", ZERO proof or scientific evidence to back up a single word he said. What a load of ****. Guys a mechanic NOT a tribologist or engineer. He also never mentions used oil analysis. Everything he says/claims is just "guesswork" at best, or he's a slick salesman trying to seem like 3/3000 changes are justified. Only way to PROVE oil is bad and actually needs changing at 3/3000 is by ACTUAL TESTING.

Oh and the fact he has a man bun, let alone a 60+ year old with a man bun sure doesn't help. <ok, that was meant more to be funny then any crack at his credibility.;)>
2011 Suzuki Grand Vitara I4, always changed at 5000-6000, 10-30 Valvoline Semi-Syn high mileage.
252,000, rusty but still going. Uses little to no oil between changes, now seeping just a bit here & there.
 
Interesting read here!
My wife has a 2021 soul, 2.0 liter. 39,000 miles. We dropped it off for the 24 hour test. It failed. They said they cannot release the car back to us, put us in a loaner from enterprise until the engine gets replaced.
Engines are on back order. Could be up to 1.5 months.
Im happy Kia/Hyundai is honoring this.
It never used any oil. I check our vehicles fluid levels weekly and do the oil/filter changes myself.
 
Interesting read here!
My wife has a 2021 soul, 2.0 liter. 39,000 miles. We dropped it off for the 24 hour test. It failed. They said they cannot release the car back to us, put us in a loaner from enterprise until the engine gets replaced.
Engines are on back order. Could be up to 1.5 months.
Im happy Kia/Hyundai is honoring this.
It never used any oil. I check our vehicles fluid levels weekly and do the oil/filter changes myself.
What 24 hr test is that?
 
Interesting read here!
My wife has a 2021 soul, 2.0 liter. 39,000 miles. We dropped it off for the 24 hour test. It failed. They said they cannot release the car back to us, put us in a loaner from enterprise until the engine gets replaced.
Engines are on back order. Could be up to 1.5 months.
Im happy Kia/Hyundai is honoring this.
It never used any oil. I check our vehicles fluid levels weekly and do the oil/filter changes myself.

You are lucky. They will only cover 90% of my engine because we never had it serviced at a KIA shop and bought it used. Even though it was the piston issue that caused my engine to seize.
 
In your case, your only hope is to contact that Kia corporate customer care hotline.


I hate to sound mean or rude, but I wish you wouldn't keep phrasing it "they denied the repair". If this was any other brand of car you would be 100% on your own. You are out of warranty with a seized engine. Your failure may or may not be related to the piston ring recall. Someone will likely have to pay for an engine teardown to be sure. I caution that might initially be you.

But if is true that your engine seized due the piston rings Kia is in the process of issuing a related recall for, I would be optimistic. Only because it is Kia.
Well, Kia denies it's the piston issue because my husband and son did the oil changes on my Kia, and I bought it used. So now I am stuck paying $2000 for a new engine because they will only cover 90%. If I had known of any possible recall, I would not have bought it.
 
What 24 hr test is that?
We were told by the dealer, they needed to keep it for 24 hours, for a test. What I gathered, from what the service advisor said - engine needs to be at ambient temp, they hook a device up to it (inducing a sound?), device then records. Ours was the first failure at this dealer, they said the next 5 after ours failed as well.

jenniramos1018 - I agree, I’m considering us lucky. A new engine, and a loaner car, at no cost? Yes, I’m happy. Especially since my wife likes the car, wants to keep it. Even better, it will be paid off soon! I’ve had the fear, of what you’re going through, since I do our oil changes. Before I bought my current vehicle, I asked about this, salesperson said no, it has to go to a shop. I said goodbye, thank you for your time. At which point the manager came out, corrected her. I wouldn’t be surprised if this became reality.
 
Well, Kia denies it's the piston issue because my husband and son did the oil changes on my Kia, and I bought it used. So now I am stuck paying $2000 for a new engine because they will only cover 90%. If I had known of any possible recall, I would not have bought it.
Dealer is pulling your chain telling you that the repair values at $20,000 to replace your engine block.
Also, your warranty states 2nd party owners are only covered for 5y / 60k. You failed to read that prior to purchase?

Lastly, always do a Google Search on make, model and year vehicle recalls, safety issues and service updates / upgrades, BEFORE purchase, not after.
 
Well, Kia denies it's the piston issue because my husband and son did the oil changes on my Kia, and I bought it used. So now I am stuck paying $2000 for a new engine because they will only cover 90%. If I had known of any possible recall, I would not have bought it.
If they are covering 90% on a car that is out of warranty, that is awesome and nobody in their right mind would be upset. But Joe is right, $2000 is 10% of $20,000 and there is no way a sane person would agree to a $20,000 repair on a Kia Soul.
 
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I had an appointment to have my car checked. My local dealer called to cancel saying they are revamping the recall. What does that mean?
No idea. I haven’t heard or read anything on NHTSA about it changing.

Did you get this letter in the mail?
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2025/RCONL-25V099-5991.pdf

And this is the same description of what the techs will do to check the engines that are part of the recall.
 
I had an appointment to have my car checked. My local dealer called to cancel saying they are revamping the recall. What does that mean?
My advice would be that when someone says "revamping the recall" to you, ask them right then & there for an explanation of what that means. If they say they don't know, tell them you will hold while they get someone higher up to explain it to you.

It's your car. Take charge of your position as a customer. You were dismissed with a bs term and you let them get away with it.
 
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Well, Kia denies it's the piston issue because my husband and son did the oil changes on my Kia, and I bought it used. So now I am stuck paying $2000 for a new engine because they will only cover 90%. If I had known of any possible recall, I would not have bought it.
Please, do tell me of a manufacturer that hasn't had any recalls?
 
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