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A win for David against Goliath

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I won my Small Claims case against Kia Canada over the Premature Engine Failure I experienced 2 years ago. The car is a 2015 Kia Soul 2L. At that time, it had 200,000km on it. I got my $8,000 for the cost of a new Longblock, and car rental. I got an additional $1,500 for my aggravation.
I had to go the Lawsuit route because all I got from every level at Kia was refusal, denial and lies.

The case number is ON Small Claims: SC-25-171095. The Settlement Conference was on Aug. 26.
The Settlement Conference was presided over by Assistant Judge Anne Sheppard. The Kia Lawyer was Danny Tran. It was a ZOOM meeting - not a court appearance, Perry Mason type drama.

it is very easy to initiate a Small Claims Case. This was a very easy case to win because I had hard evidence of tens of $Billions of dollars paid out by Kia worldwide over their hundreds of thousands of defective engines, including a $3 Billion settlement in Canada 3 years ago awarded to McKenzie Lake Lawyers.

There is another active Class Action Lawsuit initiated by McKenzie Lake Lawyers for the same issue that includes vehicles up to 2022.

There is no time limit on filing a Lawsuit against Kia because they are guilty of Concealment.

Filing a Small Claim is cheap - around $125. The most expensive part was the Process Server to deliver the Suit papers to Kia Canada in Toronto. That cost $350. YOU DO NOT NEED A LAWER.
The Rules of Evidence are totally different from a Criminal Case. You do your own research and compile your own notes. I have a ton of it.

A Small Claim I filed during COVID took 3 years to get to a Settlement Conference. This case took just 3 months from filing to the Conference.

If anyone needs advice on how to sue Kia for their garbage engines, feel free to contact me.

PS: Hyundai’s use the same junk engines and have also been successfully sued worldwide.

Pretty much ALL models of Kia and Hyundai vehicles and engines are included in the Class Actions.

To this point all Hyundai/Kia engines from 2010 to at least 2022 are ticking time bombs.

Here is a starting point for McKenzie Lake Lawyers to get in on their fresh Class Action against Hyundai/Kia.

Hyundai/Kia Vehicle Defect Class Actions

[moderator edit: removed phone number and email. all the information you need is in the link above]
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Dude, that's AWESOME news! Congratulations. And it's very generous of you to offer advice to anyone else that has been screwed over on a defective engine claim. That's the best news I've heard today. Thank you.
 
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I won my Small Claims case against Kia Canada over the Premature Engine Failure I experienced 2 years ago. The car is a 2015 Kia Soul 2L. At that time, it had 200,000km on it. I got my $8,000 for the cost of a new Longblock, and car rental. I got an additional $1,500 for my aggravation.
I had to go the Lawsuit route because all I got from every level at Kia was refusal, denial and lies.

The case number is ON Small Claims: SC-25-171095. The Settlement Conference was on Aug. 26.
The Settlement Conference was presided over by Assistant Judge Anne Sheppard. The Kia Lawyer was Danny Tran. It was a ZOOM meeting - not a court appearance, Perry Mason type drama.

it is very easy to initiate a Small Claims Case. This was a very easy case to win because I had hard evidence of tens of $Billions of dollars paid out by Kia worldwide over their hundreds of thousands of defective engines, including a $3 Billion settlement in Canada 3 years ago awarded to McKenzie Lake Lawyers.

There is another active Class Action Lawsuit initiated by McKenzie Lake Lawyers for the same issue that includes vehicles up to 2022.

There is no time limit on filing a Lawsuit against Kia because they are guilty of Concealment.

Filing a Small Claim is cheap - around $125. The most expensive part was the Process Server to deliver the Suit papers to Kia Canada in Toronto. That cost $350. YOU DO NOT NEED A LAWER.
The Rules of Evidence are totally different from a Criminal Case. You do your own research and complile your own notes. I have a ton of it.i

If anyone needs advice on how to sue Kia for their garbage engines, feel free to contact me.

PS: Hyundai’s use the same junk engines and have also been successfully sued worldwide.

Here is a starting point for McKenzie Lake Lawyers to get in on their fresh Class Action against Hyundai/Kia.

Hyundai/Kia Vehicle Defect Class Actions
Congratulations. What was the warranty on your Soul? It seemed like you were 100,000 km over and past the 5 yr Canadian powertrain. Can you fill us in??
 
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Congratulations. What was the warranty on your Soul? It seemed like you were 100,000 km over and past the 5 yr Canadian powertrain. Can you fill us in??

I was 3 years and a hundred thousand km out of Warranty. Warranty and time are irrelevant in the case of these defective engines, and these crooked companies. The 2 year time limit to file a case also doesn't apply because of Hyundai and Kia's Concealment of the dismal quality of their product. Their history of hundreds of thousands of failed engines worldwide provide an easy win for any Court Case. Got a premature engine failure in one of these dogs that you have the misfortune to own, that is way out of Warranty? Sue the bastards in Small Claims Court. You'll be pleasantly surprised. Apparently Kia is not even honoring their Warranty on new vehicles for replacement engines. The current Class Action goes up to 2022 model years. That means that a 2022 vehicle with a failed engine and a Warranty that goes to 2027, is NOT being repaired under Kia Warranty, requiring owners to participate in Class Actions for compensation, or the Small Claims alternative. Hyundai/Kia have presided over the biggest disaster in automotive history - bar none. The companies figure that the payout from Law Suits is a cheaper alternative to Recalls that would bankrupt the companies and their Dealers.
 
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What happened to your engine? Did it throw a rod through the block? I'm going through a catalytic converter situation on a 2017 1.6L now...already below efficiency after 4K miles on a OE replacement $2200 converter. Burns a quart of oil in 4K miles, no misfires, nothing abnormal and I have months of OBD logs showing nothing abnormal. It's frustrating on a 125K mile engine.
 
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The engine gave a sound like a shotgun blast and then started rattling like a classroom of kids banging on pots and pans. When Kia sends a new long block to a Dealer or private garage - the old engine gets returned to Kia in the same shipping crate. Kia has the serial number and knows exactly where the engine came from, and they autopsy the engine. I know what the autopsy report would say: The engine failed like hundreds of thousands of others because the metal chaff from milling, drilling, and machining the blocks, is not properly cleaned out. The chaff blocks the oil journals. The engine doesn't get oil and blows up. This can happen 2 blocks away from the Dealer when you pick up your brand new vehicle, or 200,000km down the road as in my case. ALL Hyundai/Kia engines are ticking time bombs.

If your engine is using excessive oil - your engine is toast. A quart every 4,000 IS excessive on an engine with 125,000 on it. It's a dead giveaway. Mine had 126,000 when I bought it, and was using a liter a week from the time I picked the car up until it blew at 200,000. Also, if the oil is dirty one week after an oil change - your engine is toast, and will fail completely very shortly. They run perfectly normally right up to the moment they explode.

Replacement engines are a profit center for Hyundai/Kia. You pay for the engine when you buy the car. You pay for another engine when it fails. Kia gets the engine back. They rebuild it and sell it again to a Dealer or a private garage - at the same price as a brand new engine. The same failed engine gets rebuilt and sold multiple times. They make a fortune off failed engines. What they make on rebuilding and reselling failed engines makes up for the money they put out on Class Action Settlements and Law Suits over - their failed engines. I know of an individual that is on his THIRD Kia engine - in a 3 year old vehicle.
 
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