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5w20 Royal Purple & kn oil filter every 10k or so.
You won't have that engine working well very long, if it's a S.Korean TGDI /GDI.
What Kia recommends is not best for your engine.
Use 5w30 synthetic and change every 3-4k.
 

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Well, i got this from walmart yesterday. I also bought OEM oil filter and drain plug gasket. I will change oil at 3,500m, then go to Kia to have oil change at 7,000m.. then I will change every 5,000m after that. I will stagger oil change between dealership and myself just because of the warranty. If I do it myself, I spend around 22 bucks, wile the dealership charges 89 bucks, and I have to drive 1.5 hours round trip. Maybe i will stop having dealership do it after their second oil change.

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I have asked the dealership twice and got told by 2 different people they use 5W30 now. I have noticed this on my last oil change with my Sedona before I sol it. I will soon find out when I bring the Soul to them.


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Well, i got this from walmart yesterday. I also bought OEM oil filter and drain plug gasket. I will change oil at 3,500m, then go to Kia to have oil change at 7,000m.. then I will change every 5,000m after that. I will stagger oil change between dealership and myself just because of the warranty. If I do it myself, I spend around 22 bucks, wile the dealership charges 89 bucks, and I have to drive 1.5 hours round trip. Maybe i will stop having dealership do it after their second oil change.

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I have asked the dealership twice and got told by 2 different people they use 5W30 now. I have noticed this on my last oil change with my Sedona before I sol it. I will soon find out when I bring the Soul to them.


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Would you ever consider using something like this, Valvoline "Modern Engine" Oil designed for GDI engines? It's about $20 more for the 5 qt size. I'll probably switch to something like this if it helps keep carbon buildup in check.

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  • Ultimate protection for GDI, turbo and newer auto engines
  • 40% better protection against carbon build-up
  • Outstanding performance in preventing wear, sludge and corrosion
  • Exceptional protection against motor oil breakdown in vehicle engines
  • Full synthetic motor oil for extreme temp protection
Vavoline’s Modern Engine Full Synthetic, which is specifically formulated with additives to reduce carbon buildup more than other oils. “It is hot there, so that oil has to be able to withstand oxidation, thermal breakdown, and degradation or that oil can form deposits over time,” Warholic explained.

That’s exactly what Valvoline Modern Engine does that other high-quality oils, even synthetics, don’t. Valvoline Modern Engine is an oil that is specifically designed to address a problem and take measures to solve, while others remain seemingly fixated on the ineffective notion of cleaning by the use of special fuel. Warholic believes, “Modern Engine is only one designed for this.”


The Truth Behind Carbon Buildup


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-Modern-Engine-SAE-5W-30-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-QT/985370023

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Would you ever consider using something like this, Valvoline "Modern Engine" Oil designed for GDI engines? It's about $20 more for the 5 qt size. I'll probably switch to something like this if it helps keep carbon buildup in check.

About this item
  • Ultimate protection for GDI, turbo and newer auto engines
  • 40% better protection against carbon build-up
  • Outstanding performance in preventing wear, sludge and corrosion
  • Exceptional protection against motor oil breakdown in vehicle engines
  • Full synthetic motor oil for extreme temp protection
Vavoline’s Modern Engine Full Synthetic, which is specifically formulated with additives to reduce carbon buildup more than other oils. “It is hot there, so that oil has to be able to withstand oxidation, thermal breakdown, and degradation or that oil can form deposits over time,” Warholic explained.

That’s exactly what Valvoline Modern Engine does that other high-quality oils, even synthetics, don’t. Valvoline Modern Engine is an oil that is specifically designed to address a problem and take measures to solve, while others remain seemingly fixated on the ineffective notion of cleaning by the use of special fuel. Warholic believes, “Modern Engine is only one designed for this.”


The Truth Behind Carbon Buildup


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-Modern-Engine-SAE-5W-30-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-QT/985370023

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Yes, I would for the next oil change, but I have not seen any comparison between this and other engine oils. Don't the new ones that are API SP and GF6A certified the same? I hope project farm on youtube will do a comparison.
 

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Keep all your store receipts and include the mileage on each one.
Valvoline Modern Engine is discontinued. Valvoline now has an Advanced Synthetic offering. Or you can just use their default Synthetic.

Supertech Synthetic (SP) is fine for your shortened OCI schedule. If I understood your earlier post correctly, you will be seeing the dealer for an oil change by the 7.5K mark?..... correct?

Plus, in-between (roughly 3.75k), you plan on using the Supertech?...... is that right?
Your OCI length is very good then. Did you know that if you keep all receipts, there's no need to have OCIs done at the dealer. Just do them-all yourself and know the job's done correctly.
 
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The bright Yellow lettering on the Oil Filler Cap, should be all the advise anyone needs. Eh?

That's what I used on my Gen one, for six years, and that's what my dealer uses now on my 2020 LX.
A word to the wise, should be sufficient.

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Questions.

Has anybody figured out the exact differences between the Valvoline product and other high-end synthetic oils?

Do we have any information on the EasyGDI treatment that Valvoline Instant Oil Change locations offer? That might be another viable option for many. I scoured the Valvoline website and found nothing.
 

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  • [*]Questions.

    Has anybody figured out the exact differences between the Valvoline product and other high-end synthetic oils?

    Do we have any information on the EasyGDI treatment that Valvoline Instant Oil Change locations offer? That might be another viable option for many. I scoured the Valvoline website and found nothing.
    Supposedly their elixir is different:
What will help with these issues is Valvoline’s Modern Engine Full Synthetic, which is specifically formulated with additives to reduce carbon buildup more than other oils. “It is hot there, so that oil has to be able to withstand oxidation, thermal breakdown, and degradation or that oil can form deposits over time,” Warholic explained

That’s exactly what Valvoline Modern Engine does that other high-quality oils, even synthetics, don’t. Valvoline Modern Engine is an oil that is specifically designed to address a problem and take measures to solve, while others remain seemingly fixated on the ineffective notion of cleaning by the use of special fuel. Warholic believes, “Modern Engine is only one designed for this.”
 

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if it says 5-20 synthetic then do that. Me my self i drain the oil and oil filter cavity. then oil plug back in, then 4 quarts new oil. then i run for 10 minutes. then drain that. then new filter and new oil. gets it very clean. cost more for the extra 4 quarts. but its like brand new car clean.
They do have a 10-minute cleaner you can put in your oil just before you change it. Not sure the name of it, but had a few customers that would use it to clean all the garbage out of the motor. Worked really well. You may have to go to a parts house to find it if your interested in it. Save you some money. I change my Full Synthetic oil every 5k even though I use Synthetic oil and filter. If I don't drive it 5k within 6 months it still gets changed.
 

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  • Supposedly their elixir is different:
What will help with these issues is Valvoline’s Modern Engine Full Synthetic, which is specifically formulated with additives to reduce carbon buildup more than other oils. “It is hot there, so that oil has to be able to withstand oxidation, thermal breakdown, and degradation or that oil can form deposits over time,” Warholic explained

That’s exactly what Valvoline Modern Engine does that other high-quality oils, even synthetics, don’t. Valvoline Modern Engine is an oil that is specifically designed to address a problem and take measures to solve, while others remain seemingly fixated on the ineffective notion of cleaning by the use of special fuel. Warholic believes, “Modern Engine is only one designed for this.”
Just so you all know these oil companies all use the same base material known as Clear Base. Then each one has a package of additives that gets dumped into their particular brand of oil. We could debate oils all day long as to which one is better than which one, but not here to try and persuade anyone on what kind of oil they prefer. Anyone who says that oil companies are fixated on the ineffective notion of cleaning by the use of special fuel is 100% WRONG and are MISLEADING people. I wouldn't recommend anyone listen to someone who blows that smoke up people's butt. People have a right to believe whatever they prefer, just stuff like that ISN'T TRUE!!! Right now I'm hearing and reading great things about the NEW Pennzoil Platinum that is made from natural gas. Something you may wanna check out.
 

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  • Supposedly their elixir is different:
What will help with these issues is Valvoline’s Modern Engine Full Synthetic, which is specifically formulated with additives to reduce carbon buildup more than other oils. “It is hot there, so that oil has to be able to withstand oxidation, thermal breakdown, and degradation or that oil can form deposits over time,” Warholic explained

That’s exactly what Valvoline Modern Engine does that other high-quality oils, even synthetics, don’t. Valvoline Modern Engine is an oil that is specifically designed to address a problem and take measures to solve, while others remain seemingly fixated on the ineffective notion of cleaning by the use of special fuel. Warholic believes, “Modern Engine is only one designed for this.”
Great marketing stuff!

Technical details?
 
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Great marketing stuff!

Technical details?
Yeah no kidding. Everything BUT the details of just exactly how their "formulation" retards carbon buildup on the backside of valves. I'd love to see some photo evidence on a 50,000 and 100,000 mile side by side engine test (eg: theirs vs. any other full SN synthetic oil).

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Trust ME! This stuff will keep the o'l valves clean...
 

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Castrol Edge 5w-30, good oil, fair price and meets specs.

You can pay a lot more but do you really get a lot more??
 
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