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After reading another thread about the tailgate release, I wondered just how hard it would be, if even possible, for a remote tailgate release to be put into a Soul. Actually once I opened the access door to the manual latch I realized that the electrical release mechanism is sitting right there. The rear inside panel would have to come off and fishing a wire or two up to the top of the door maybe a little bit of a challenge, but putting in an electrical release to the tailgate is possible (I would have to research if the ground is run forward or if 12V needs to be supplied up front) Then once inside the vehicle the wiring would be just a matter of running the wire under the panels or carpet to the front somewhere. Installing a push switch would not be difficult. I wonder why Kia did not do this to begin with? Isn't this an option on the 2014?
 

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they all unlock with the remote but it doesn't actually open up, you can get that on the high end Sorento. It all adds to the cost of the vehicle, I suppose it would be handy like the Ford Escape foot trigger to open the back but you have to buy the Titanium model if you want that (starting at more than $6000 higher that the top Soul model), but the hatch is so light, never really found a problem, you just compensate for the fact it doesn't automatically open up.
 

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they all unlock with the remote but it doesn't actually open up, you can get that on the high end Sorento. It all adds to the cost of the vehicle, I suppose it would be handy like the Ford Escape foot trigger to open the back but you have to buy the Titanium model if you want that (starting at more than $6000 higher that the top Soul model), but the hatch is so light, never really found a problem, you just compensate for the fact it doesn't automatically open up.
I am not following what you are saying. I am only talking about the release, not an automatic lifting mechanism. All you would get from the button is an unlatch, the tailgate would still have to be lifted. But the way it is now is that unless you have the Smart Key, the only way to open it is at the rear handle.
 

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That's my biggest annoyance with the base model Soul. Don't know how often I walked to the back of the car only to realize I forgot to unlock all doors. Without a remote, I now have to go back to the driver's side door and unlock all doors, either with key or by opening the door and using the central locking button. Then, after retrieving my package from th back, repeat the procedure to lock the car. A trunk release button would be nice, even my 12 year old Focus has it.
 

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Street-rod specialists have all sorts of gizmos for opening doors, popping latches, etc.

For opening, you might be able to utilize linear actuators.............dead cool!

Watch on this example of one of my dream cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_PFepfHvI
 

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Shaggy, Looking at the diagrams on the 2012 it seems that full control is from the BCM. The 2 rear doors are actuated by single pin. The RF door by a pin & the left front door powered by another pin plus the pins for the key inputs to the left front. But I show no pin, using AllData, for the rear hatch making me think it wasn't even optional. (correct me if I'm wrong) I then checked the 2013 wiring diagram & it's not yet a complete listing for me. Using my Snap-On Modis I looked to see If I could toggle the switches separately thru the BCM & I can but only in the same order. LF only, RF only & both rears together. RF & both rears have no ability to just actuate the 1 door meaning that if one was wired into the rear you could have BCM problems or when you use the remote or LF power door switch you may get it to unlatch in the rear. Problem is that on the 2013 there is a finger pad switch at the rear hatch & that may actually cause problems in how it may or may not work. Anything can be manipulated but from what I can see it may cause problems you didn't count on. If my diagram is correct, (BIG IF) I'd shy away from that job unless you really research that one out
 

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That's my biggest annoyance with the base model Soul. Don't know how often I walked to the back of the car only to realize I forgot to unlock all doors. Without a remote, I now have to go back to the driver's side door and unlock all doors, either with key or by opening the door and using the central locking button. Then, after retrieving my package from th back, repeat the procedure to lock the car. A trunk release button would be nice, even my 12 year old Focus has it.
Mine too. I am going to rectify this one day.
 

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Back in the customizing days,you could buy solenoids to open doors that were shaved clean of locks etc.
Had one on a trunk of a 57' Ford.Really just a unit with a rod that pulled a cable or line attached to the latch.
Run the wires to a foot switch or button below the dash.I'd think these would be available by remote.I'd think an
exterior switch could also be done.
Check J.C.Whitney.
 

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Shaggy, Looking at the diagrams on the 2012 it seems that full control is from the BCM. The 2 rear doors are actuated by single pin. The RF door by a pin & the left front door powered by another pin plus the pins for the key inputs to the left front. But I show no pin, using AllData, for the rear hatch making me think it wasn't even optional. (correct me if I'm wrong) I then checked the 2013 wiring diagram & it's not yet a complete listing for me. Using my Snap-On Modis I looked to see If I could toggle the switches separately thru the BCM & I can but only in the same order. LF only, RF only & both rears together. RF & both rears have no ability to just actuate the 1 door meaning that if one was wired into the rear you could have BCM problems or when you use the remote or LF power door switch you may get it to unlatch in the rear. Problem is that on the 2013 there is a finger pad switch at the rear hatch & that may actually cause problems in how it may or may not work. Anything can be manipulated but from what I can see it may cause problems you didn't count on. If my diagram is correct, (BIG IF) I'd shy away from that job unless you really research that one out
You are probably right, what would need to be added is an independent key tumbler to the tailgate and the circuit to the auto door locks removed for it. That may prove a bigger PITA than what is there now. Of course there is always the brick through the window technique but that may prove to be expensive! But again, I was only trying to add a remote release, not a remote door lock. When you think about it, a remote release makes absolutely no sense at all (I have already slapped myself in the head).
 

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I am not following what you are saying. I am only talking about the release, not an automatic lifting mechanism. All you would get from the button is an unlatch, the tailgate would still have to be lifted. But the way it is now is that unless you have the Smart Key, the only way to open it is at the rear handle.
I must be missing something (maybe its a senior moment - I do get them occasionally ;) ), but no matter how it unlocks (remote keyless entry, smart key or inside main door unlock button), you will still have to lift it with the rear handle to open it, so how does anything else offer any benefit?
 

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I must be missing something (maybe its a senior moment - I do get them occasionally ;) ), but no matter how it unlocks (remote keyless entry, smart key or inside main door unlock button), you will still have to lift it with the rear handle to open it, so how does anything else offer any benefit?
To quote an ancient sage from response #10: "When you think about it, a remote release makes absolutely no sense at all (I have already slapped myself in the head)."
 

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Back in the customizing days,you could buy solenoids to open doors that were shaved clean of locks etc.
Had one on a trunk of a 57' Ford.Really just a unit with a rod that pulled a cable or line attached to the latch.
Run the wires to a foot switch or button below the dash.I'd think these would be available by remote.I'd think an
exterior switch could also be done.
Check J.C.Whitney.
Yes, I had one installed in a '57 Bel Air, no lock just a trunk release.
 
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