Sup guysss, im new to the forums, I havent gotten my soul yet. Ive been having a hell of a time here in northern california trying to get mine. None of these bastids will work with me on the price. I want the exclaim all black, and they have offered to give it to me at invoice of $17,806 but I feel its still too much, what do you guys think? But on another note, a dealer said that around september when they start getting close to getting the new 2011 models, there might be huge rebates on the souls, or kias in general to push them out. Do you guys believe its true? I am in a tight situation for cash, but I just cant settle for a plus so im currently still fighting for a good deal on the exclaim, tips are welcome.