[GeoSoul]

I would really put alot of stock in RELIABILITY of 2021 vehicles, because, what, they've been out for 15 minutes?

Unless Consumer Reports is lowering itself to using a crystal ball, this survey is pretty fuzzy. I think we all can guess where a 5 year old Nissan will land in THAT survey.

Here's how the J.D. Power IQS study scored the major brands (problems per 100 vehicles): 2020

• Dodge (136)
• Kia (136)
• Chevrolet (141)
• Ram (141)
• Genesis (142)
• Mitsubishi (148)
• Buick (150)
• GMC (151)
• Volkswagen (152)
• Hyundai (153)
• Jeep (155)
• Lexus (159)
• Nissan (161)
• Cadillac (162)
• Infiniti (173)
• Ford (174)
• Mini (174)
• BMW (176)
• Honda (177)
• Toyota (177)
• Lincoln (182)
• Mazda (184)
• Acura (185)
• Porsche (186)
• Subaru (187)
• Chrysler (189)
• Jaguar (190)
• Mercedes-Benz (202)
• Volvo (210)
• Audi (225)
• Land Rover (228)
• Tesla (250)

These were the 26 highest-quality 2020 model-year vehicles in their segments, according to J.D Power IQS:

• Small car: Chevrolet Sonic
• Small premium car: Audi A3
• Compact car: Kia Forte
• Compact premium car: Genesis G70
• Compact sporty car: Hyundai Veloster and Mini Cooper (tie)
• Midsize car: Chevrolet Malibu
• Midsize premium car: Cadillac CT5
• Midsize sporty car: Ford Mustang
• Upper midsize premium car: Cadillac CT6
• Large car: Nissan Maxima
• Large premium car: BMW 8 Series
• Small SUV: Kia Soul
• Small premium SUV: Jaguar E-Pace
• Compact SUV: Hyundai Tuscon
• Compact premium SUV: Cadillac XT4
• Midsize SUV: Nissan Murano
• Midsize premium SUV: Lexus GX
• Upper midsize SUV: Kia Sorento
• Upper midsize premium SUV: BMW X6
• Large SUV: Nissan Armada
• Large premium SUV: Cadillac Escalade
• Minivan: Kia Sedona
• Midsize pickup: Ford Ranger
• Large light-duty pickup: Toyota Tundra
• Large heavy-duty pickup: Ford Super Duty

 

[GeoSoul]

And knowing that Nissan is part of the Renault family of quality products....well....nuff said.

 

[GeoSoul]

That is scary!
They discounted a merger this year and the strategic alliance goes back to 1999.

In the '70s a coworker had a succession of Renaults... apparently no other dealers wanted them as trades! I helped him work on them. On one we completely rebuilt the motor and it was easy to work on as the cylinder sleeves came out and were exchanged.

Renault was in trouble before the pandemic hit. They own 43% of Nissan. The French carmaker reported its worst financial performance in a decade last year, with net profit dropping 99% to just €19 million ($21 million). Its share price has plummeted 69% since the start of 2019.
May 25, 2020 CNN

 

[GeoSoul]

We helped my daughter buy her Odyssay and I wished we would have purchased an extended warranty. I think it was a 2005 model. My in-laws bought it new and and my FIL was a car guy and maintained the car religiously. I think my daughter bought the car from them when it was 6 or 7 years old. It had 7X,XXX miles on it - looked and ran new. Two weeks after they bought the transmission went out. I got Honda to cover half the cost - thanks to MIL's meticulous record keeping. But, over the years, just about everything went - heater core, radiator, starter, back door motors, alternator, calipers, A/C and on and on. My daughter sent me a list once and it was an eye-opener. I saw that list, called her and told her I'd help her with another car. She now has a Sorento and loves it.

Sadly that was my same experience with Hondas too engage. They seem to rapidly decline after about 6 years, inside & out. The rattles & shimmy, in all of them, drove me nuts.

I don't thing they could ever offer the same warranty timeframe as Kia.

 

[GeoSoul]

Bumping this thread with newer stats. Jan 2023

3 Most Reliable Kia Models

Kia is known to make reliable vehicles. Here are the top 3 most reliable Kia models you may want to consider.

www.motorbiscuit.com

 

[GeoSoul]

Of more interest to those who consider either Motorbiscuit or RepairPal as reliable or authoritative sources. That article reads more like a paid ad for low end Kia's. There are a variety of types of statistics for any measures, where depending on which ones are highlighted and how they are presented, skews results. Consumer Reports is a perfect example of skewed stats. Once they form an opinion --what they are best at, despite the appearance of being impartial-- their stats will always support their bias.

Couldn't agree more Alma. I think of it more like those tabloid articles in the grocery store checkout line when I was a kid. They are fun to read and have a little something for everybody.

I linked this one from Motor Dumplings because it makes me feel better about my Soul purchase. Click........bait