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They said my 04 Honda Oddy was great when I bought it....then then it sucked according to them a couple years later...they were right with their revised assessment
 

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Take anything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt. In JD Power surveys KIA is usually close to the top.
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That's right. Shop around. Check them all and see where Kia stands. Not perfect, but darn good.

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I would really put alot of stock in RELIABILITY of 2021 vehicles, because, what, they've been out for 15 minutes?

Unless Consumer Reports is lowering itself to using a crystal ball, this survey is pretty fuzzy. I think we all can guess where a 5 year old Nissan will land in THAT survey.

Here's how the J.D. Power IQS study scored the major brands (problems per 100 vehicles): 2020

  • Dodge (136)
  • Kia (136)
  • Chevrolet (141)
  • Ram (141)
  • Genesis (142)
  • Mitsubishi (148)
  • Buick (150)
  • GMC (151)
  • Volkswagen (152)
  • Hyundai (153)
  • Jeep (155)
  • Lexus (159)
  • Nissan (161)
  • Cadillac (162)
  • Infiniti (173)
  • Ford (174)
  • Mini (174)
  • BMW (176)
  • Honda (177)
  • Toyota (177)
  • Lincoln (182)
  • Mazda (184)
  • Acura (185)
  • Porsche (186)
  • Subaru (187)
  • Chrysler (189)
  • Jaguar (190)
  • Mercedes-Benz (202)
  • Volvo (210)
  • Audi (225)
  • Land Rover (228)
  • Tesla (250)
These were the 26 highest-quality 2020 model-year vehicles in their segments, according to J.D Power IQS:

  • Small car: Chevrolet Sonic
  • Small premium car: Audi A3
  • Compact car: Kia Forte
  • Compact premium car: Genesis G70
  • Compact sporty car: Hyundai Veloster and Mini Cooper (tie)
  • Midsize car: Chevrolet Malibu
  • Midsize premium car: Cadillac CT5
  • Midsize sporty car: Ford Mustang
  • Upper midsize premium car: Cadillac CT6
  • Large car: Nissan Maxima
  • Large premium car: BMW 8 Series
  • Small SUV: Kia Soul
  • Small premium SUV: Jaguar E-Pace
  • Compact SUV: Hyundai Tuscon
  • Compact premium SUV: Cadillac XT4
  • Midsize SUV: Nissan Murano
  • Midsize premium SUV: Lexus GX
  • Upper midsize SUV: Kia Sorento
  • Upper midsize premium SUV: BMW X6
  • Large SUV: Nissan Armada
  • Large premium SUV: Cadillac Escalade
  • Minivan: Kia Sedona
  • Midsize pickup: Ford Ranger
  • Large light-duty pickup: Toyota Tundra
  • Large heavy-duty pickup: Ford Super Duty
 

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Nissan's have been the best vehicles I have owned......trouble free.....All of them.
 

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Yup - CR is a bit suspect in this household. I bought a Yaris in 2007, and later happened on their review. They hadn't even bothered to read the manual since they complained about no cupholders in the front, but bitched about the "coin holders" in the corners by the doors that could be shut, but let the coins fall out of the bottom. These were stow-away cup-holders that worked perfectly for their purpose, and were well-described in the manual.

Haven't trusted CR since...
 

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And the Chevrolet Vega was the 1971 Motor Trend Car Of The Year. And the 1974 Ford Mustang II. And the 1976 Dodge Aspen. And the 1980 Chevrolet Citation. And the 1983 Renault Alliance.

Our 2013 Kia Soul (Base 1.6 Automatic, 95K miles) was tied with our 1995 Chevrolet Lumina APV minivan (150K miles) as the most reliable, totally trouble-free cars we have ever owned. I hope our '20 Soul LX with IVT carries on the tradition.
 

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And knowing that Nissan is part of the Renault family of quality products....well....nuff said.
 

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Nissan's have been the best vehicles I have owned......trouble free.....All of them.
My first one (1973) had no problems with original engine (1600) when I replaced it at 105,000 miles...
sold 4 cylinder and 4 speed trans to neighbor to use in his newer PL620.
Only issue was idler arm, alternator and carb secondary (replaced with a Weber).
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My second one was a 1992 Sentra GXE, no issues for 100K+ other than alternator

My third is my 2016 Frontier 4WD with 75K and zero issues to date
 

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They said my 04 Honda Oddy was great when I bought it....then then it sucked according to them a couple years later...they were right with their revised assessment
My daughter had one. What a POS it was. She is in a Sorento now.

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My first one (1973) had no problems with original engine (1600) when I replaced it at 105,000 miles...
sold 4 cylinder and 4 speed trans to neighbor to use in his newer PL620.
Only issue was idler arm, alternator and carb secondary (replaced with a Weber).
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My second one was a 1992 Sentra GXE, no issues for 100K+ other than alternator

My third is my 2016 Frontier 4WD with 75K and zero issues to date
Awesome....
 

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My daughter had one. What a POS it was. She is in a Sorento now.

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We got 9 mpg all of the time. It ticked like a bomb from new......Honda said 9 mpg was with in spec. I bought the extended warranty....was about 500 bucks......Best 500 bucks I ever spent.....repairs were close to 7000.00. Damn thing was rusting too...with 40K miles.... GARBAGE
 

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And knowing that Nissan is part of the Renault family of quality products....well....nuff said.
LOL!

If ever you get a chance to cross the Sahara desert from Algeria to Niger, keep a look out for the Renault carcasses. They litter the desert.
 
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And knowing that Nissan is part of the Renault family of quality products....well....nuff said.
That is scary!
They discounted a merger this year and the strategic alliance goes back to 1999.

In the '70s a coworker had a succession of Renaults... apparently no other dealers wanted them as trades! I helped him work on them. On one we completely rebuilt the motor and it was easy to work on as the cylinder sleeves came out and were exchanged.
 

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That is scary!
They discounted a merger this year and the strategic alliance goes back to 1999.

In the '70s a coworker had a succession of Renaults... apparently no other dealers wanted them as trades! I helped him work on them. On one we completely rebuilt the motor and it was easy to work on as the cylinder sleeves came out and were exchanged.
Renault was in trouble before the pandemic hit. They own 43% of Nissan. The French carmaker reported its worst financial performance in a decade last year, with net profit dropping 99% to just €19 million ($21 million). Its share price has plummeted 69% since the start of 2019.
May 25, 2020 CNN
 
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