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Honestly, I can't think of a single car being sold today that you shouldn't expect to get 100k miles out of. We expect so much nowadays, but sometimes it's good to reflect on the garbage we were sold in the 80's. Today's cars, even my $13k stripper model, are going to be more reliable than the best car of the 80's.

Further, the question is kind of a loaded question. How many miles can we expect out of the cars? Well, with enough money and wrenching, we can expect them to run until rust renders it a pile of dust.
 

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nowadays rust dosent seem to be the "end of life" problem. What stops a car is when the electrics play up and the thing isnt worth fixing.

People complain that they cant work on their cars anymore these days. The fact is that cars rarely go wrong so you dont have to work on them. In the old days a car needed working on every few thousand miles to keep it reliable and stop the various joints and stuff wearing out..... do people really want a return to this?.... skinned knuckes and using frozen spanners whilst laying in a puddle of driving rain on a sunday morning has lost its appeal to me somewhat.
 

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Cousin has the van (unsure of the model) been going strong since 2003. Guess it's 10 years now, since the 2013 is out. Had some minor problems, but all in all engine is fine, interior (they have 3 kids, and a set of monster twins), not so much.
 

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I think my soul is over the 55,000 mile mark now. Still going strong.

I would hope it lasts at least to 100k since that's what the powertrain warranty covers.
 

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A little anecdotal info, , , back in the day, when I was still gainfully employed, I ran my personal cars about 30k to 40k (miles) per year.
That was always Detroit Iron, with high performance and low gas mileage. But being retired and on limited income, I now need a car that I can get into for under $400 per month (payments) and 30+ MPG, when I drive sensibly.

I just traded off my fifth Suzuki, after 12 years of driving nothing but Zukes. They are great little cars, but somewhat ho-hum in the Joy of Driving dept.
Engineering left a lot to be desired in the DIY maintenance department. Just changing the oil filter was a pure nightmare. It was difficult on the 2009 SX4, but almost impossible on the 2010+ cars.

I love the little 2013 Soul, for its simplicity (under the hood) and ease of maintenance. My dealer is taking care of all the maintenance for the first year, but when they stop, next Sept, it will be a pure joy to do my own Oil Changes.

At 4650 miles, my Soul is just starting to loosen up and RUN! It just gets betterer and betterer!!!
No rattles and no squeaks, just lots of SCAT, like a turpentined cat.

Oh, by the way, I see other Souls everywhere I go. The most commonly seen one is the Clear White. They're EVERYWHERE!
Recently, at the grocery store, I tried to get into two other white Souls, before I finally found mine.:laughonfloor

Happy 2013 y'all !!!

TM :cool:
 

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Happy New Year to you, too!

With all those white Souls running around in your neck of the woods, you might want to give yours rallye stripes just to set it apart from the herd.
 

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Oh, by the way, I see other Souls everywhere I go. The most commonly seen one is the Clear White. They're EVERYWHERE!
Recently, at the grocery store, I tried to get into two other white Souls, before I finally found mine.:laughonfloor

Happy 2013 y'all !!!

TM :cool:
Haha, clear white owner here as well, but I haven't had any problems distinguishing yet. I see all sorts of colors around here, most often Moss, Titanium, Molten, and Silver
 

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ya know what is so funny about this original really... old thread... My wife and I had an original Sephia... piece oh crap.. BUT Kia stood behind it for 4 transmissions under warranty.
We traded in for a first generation 29k$ Sorento and still have it 100,000+

answer is yes and no... Lol.... you might get a bad apple but honestly if you treat a car right with maint. etc. there is no reason not to get 100K and then some.

Kia stands behind their stuff and now I just traded my Ford truck in on a 2013 Soul... I believe
 

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I bought my Soul cos i drove a 5 year old Kia and it felt like a brand new car. My Soul is now 2 years old with 26k on the clock and is driving better now than it did at new.
I just sold my 2007 Spectra. Excellent shape and ready for another five years of trouble-free driving.

My friend at work drives a Kia Sephia, Not sure what year but it has over 150K on the clock and still rolling.
A friend had an orange Hyundai Excel--was there a KIA twin in the 90s?--which she loved, had many miles on and had no problems with.

I see PLENTY of older Kia's on the roads here in Houston. Lots of students on campus drive Spectras (after reading the reviews, i refused to even test drive one. they were discontinued for a reason lol). I also see lots of pre 2008 Rio's, Sportages, Optima's, and Sedona's.
Spectra was simply renamed Forte. There are reviews and there are reviews. It's best to lay hands on anything, because professional road test drivers often have different priorities than real people.

Kia Spectra5 - Road Test - Car Reviews - Car and Driver

ya know what is so funny about this original really... old thread... My wife and I had an original Sephia... piece oh crap.. BUT Kia stood behind it for 4 transmissions under warranty.
We traded in for a first generation 29k$ Sorento and still have it 100,000+

answer is yes and no... Lol.... you might get a bad apple but honestly if you treat a car right with maint. etc. there is no reason not to get 100K and then some.

Kia stands behind their stuff and now I just traded my Ford truck in on a 2013 Soul... I believe
I had a 2007 Spectra and now have a 2013 Soul. D-I-L had a Rondo which got totalled, now has 2008 Sorento with 55,000 on it. Trans went out a few months back. It cost her one bridge toll for a replacement trannie.
 

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I have a 2010 Soul Base Manual with 66,881 US California miles. Been everywhere up and down the West Coast.

Routine maintenance and I average 30.8 mpg. I love my Soul. I think it's like any other vehicle - take care of it and it will last a long time.

Also consider, as someone pointed out that with the help of Hyundai Kia has made leaps and bounds in recent years in R&d, but also quality control and tolerance machinery borrowed / acquired from the Japanese. It's no Honda, but it's a great car.

I am starting to notice some rattles however...
 

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I have a 2010 Soul Base Manual with 66,881 US California miles. Been everywhere up and down the West Coast.

Routine maintenance and I average 30.8 mpg. I love my Soul. I think it's like any other vehicle - take care of it and it will last a long time.

Also consider, as someone pointed out that with the help of Hyundai Kia has made leaps and bounds in recent years in R&d, but also quality control and tolerance machinery borrowed / acquired from the Japanese. It's no Honda, but it's a great car.

I am starting to notice some rattles however...
Hey deft, thanks for the long term update on your MT Soul. Being new to the brand and having a new MT Soul with under 2000 miles, it's nice to hear from buyers of the first Souls. After owning my last car, an Acura for 20 years, I have no idea of what to expect from Kia.

If there are any other early Soul buyers who want to share their honest opinions & experiences about reliability, it would be great to hear from you!
 

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If there are any other early Soul buyers who want to share their honest opinions & experiences about reliability, it would be great to hear from you!
We have a '10 + purchased in October 2010 with about 37,000 miles on it. It's primarily my wife's and she does a suburban commute and roughly one longer trip a week. I think the furthest we've ever taken it on a trip is maybe 600 miles because we have another car that's bigger and gets twice the mileage, so it gets the call for longer trips.

In the time we've had the car, it has been to the dealer twice for recalls (nothing serious). It has received oil changes every 5,000 miles or so and a lookover by the tech when the winter tires go on and when they come off (so approximately every six months). The only unscheduled service we had on the car was to replace spark plug and ignition wires after some mice in the garage decided one night they wanted to eat Korean food. :wink-new:

I see no rust or bubbling at body creases, the car does not rattle, and the doors and hatch make the same tinny sound they did when the car was new. We expect this car to last far longer than the average Soul owner does (seems so many trade in as soon as the payment book is empty). My biggest concern is paint and rust. The six-year anti-corrosion warranty does not inspire the confidence that other cars' anti-corrosion warranties do, and I've seen too many cars in family history rot terminally around a solid engine and drivetrain. But I guess we'll find out.
 

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At six years old and 70k on the odometer, my only problem is that she's not paid off yet. And it's good that she still runs like a new car. And since I don't like the Gen-2's, it's good that she still runs like a scalded cat, and I'm not being forced to get a new car.

Cheers Mates,
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I was just thinking about a thread like this since I just took over my wife's 2011 Kia Soul. Got 100k on the clock. I didn't review the entire thread but who holds the record right now? :)
 

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I was just thinking about a thread like this since I just took over my wife's 2011 Kia Soul. Got 100k on the clock. I didn't review the entire thread but who holds the record right now? <img src="http://www.kiasoulforums.com/images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
There's a person with 260k a few threads down, I'm at 223k on my 2010.
 

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I was just thinking about a thread like this since I just took over my wife's 2011 Kia Soul. Got 100k on the clock. I didn't review the entire thread but who holds the record right now? :)
I believe that would this guy, as announced by Kia during the 2020 reveal at the L.A. auto show. Weird though that I can't find anything else about it, I'd be really curious as to how someone puts 700k on a car that has only been out for a decade.


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I've lost the better video link, but the Soul announcement starts here at 11:06: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1yvXZWC6RI
 

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I believe that would this guy, as announced by Kia during the 2020 reveal at the L.A. auto show. Weird though that I can't find anything else about it, I'd be really curious as to how someone puts 700k on a car that has only been out for a decade.


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I've lost the better video link, but the Soul announcement starts here at 11:06: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1yvXZWC6RI
LOL!... "HE just kept Driving....." :) Seriously thats a lot of miles for like you said "A decade" .. Youd almost have to drive cross country multiple times :(
 

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My 2000 Sephia went about 200,000 and through one crash before it was so rusty that is wasn't going to pass inspection. I put about 130,00 on that car while I had it. The Forte has typically been a good long lasting car from what I have seen.
 
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