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I recently had my '20 Soul LX (with IVT) to the Kia dealer for state inspection and to check for a noise in the A/C compressor.

When I was checking in, the service writer recommended I get a 4-wheel alignment - even though the car only has 14K miles. I passed, but it made me wonder if the Gen3 Souls' rear suspension has provisions for "normal" rear alignment.

Several years ago, I was told (by a very good Kia alignment specialist who I trusted) that the alignment on the rear suspension of my '13 Soul LX could not be adjusted except with major disassembly and shims. It was basically a front alignment only car.

PS: I did a search for this topic but found nothing on Gen3.

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Your trusted specialist is right. There’s only adjustment on the front and I think it’s only the toe. But they have to put the equipment on all four wheels anyway so that’s probably why they just say “4 wheel alignment” as a general term.
 

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Your trusted specialist is right. There’s only adjustment on the front and I think it’s only the toe. But they have to put the equipment on all four wheels anyway so that’s probably why they just say “4 wheel alignment” as a general term.
Plus 4-wheel alignment sounds more impressive than 2-wheel alignment.
 

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The 3rd generation also has a solid axle that cannot be adjusted save for removing bearing and shimming. I think your service advisor misspoke as cars such as the Soul, Forte and Rio only get a 2 wheel or front end alignment.
Is there a price difference for cars that only get a front end alignment versus the cars that get a 4-wheel alignment?
 

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"Plus 4-wheel alignment sounds more impressive than 2-wheel alignment. "

And they think they can charge YOU more for it too!

So, when you get an alignment on a Soul, make sure that you let them know that you're only paying for a Two Wheel Alignment.

Despite, the R/R tracks, pot holes, rocks, logs, etc. that I've encountered in the 10 years that I've been driving a KIA Soul, I've never had an alignment problem that required a RE-Alignment. NEVER!!!

The front end of the Soul is like, Rock Solid. So if anyone tells you to get an alignment,,,,, ask them "why"?

I really don't know what you'd have to hit to require an alignment??? In ten years I've not hit it yet! Maybe a front corner collision with an Abrams Tank? But, I think I could see that one coming, and avoid it. Eh?
The Electronic Steering on the KIA soul has helped me avoid many an obstacle.
I"ve never had such great steering, in the 60+ years that I've been driving, hundreds of different vehicles.

Steer around problems, don't HIT them!

Stay Safe Mates!
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I had the alignment done on the '13 Soul back around late 2018. I was driving at night in the hard rain and a puddle on the street to my home turned out to be a 12-inch + deep hole with sharp edges and straight drop-offs. I hit it straight on at about 35 MPH. It sounded like a gun went off. Luckily, I was only a mile from home. The next morning, I went out to inspect the damage and expected to find at least a bent rim (steel, base model). No visible damage to tire or wheel. I drove out to survey the pothole and the city had put a big orange cone down inside of it. Only the tip stuck out above pavement level.

Since the car was 5+ years old and had about 60K miles, I figured I would get the alignment done. At the time, I worked for a guy who owned Kia, Hyundai, Ford, VW, and Toyota dealerships. I was the webmaster and vehicle photographer, so I pretty much knew all of the techs.

Not knowing what I know now, I went in and requested the 4-wheel alignment - around $100 if I remember right. The service writer didn't blink an eye. When the alignment tech told me only the front was adjustable, I made sure the service writer only billed me for a front alignment (around $70 if I remember right). The service writer was not a dishonest guy, he just didn't know the alignment options on that car.

BTW: In spite of the big pothole hit, all the alignment readings were at or very close to the bullseye and on-spec. Like @FLHamster said, these cars are rock solid.
 

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One drive through Massachusetts and you’ll need 2 alignments. The roads are garbage.

I bought the ‘lifetime alignment’ from Firestone Car Care. It’s a one time $180 cost (with coupon) and lasts as long as you own the car. I have it checked (usually) twice a year when I bring it in for a wheel rotation. It’s sometimes off by a little according to the print out they give me, but usually it’s “in the green” meaning it’s good and within spec.

I bought it with the old Elantra too and got 12+ years of free alignments. Of course they would find other things to rip me off with like never ending brake jobs, but now I know how to do those repairs myself and finally took Nancy’s advice to “just say no”.
 
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