Broken wheel studs

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cusionedcoils

Discussion Starter · Nov 19, 2021

So I took my car to a local car shop to get my tires rotated long story short, four wheel studs end up breaking on the front passenger side., 3 wheel studs end up breaking off. So I've taken off my tire, my brakes, my brake calipers, the rotor and I'm stuck as to how to get this nut off the I think wheel bearing and as to how to get these wheel studs out so I can replace with new. if someone could help that would be awesome.

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rhysoul

· #2 · Nov 19, 2021

Why didn’t the local shop that you were at repair the broken studs? It’s not that big of a deal and they can be replaced relatively easily.

YouTube is your friend for this one, there’s a lot of videos on it and here’s one I found in a quick search

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Nobutter69

· #3 · Nov 19, 2021

Yeah, first off, don't take off that big nut, your front bearings are pressed in, so if you take that nut off and try to pull off the hub you will be ruining the wheel bearing. You should be able to use a punch and hammer to knock the broken studs off, then feed the new ones in from the back.

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bwdz75

· #4 · Nov 19, 2021

Wheels studs don't break unless someone crossthreaded the lug nuts. You need new wheel studs and new lug nuts, make sure you get the right lug nuts as they are different whether you have steel or aluminum wheels. Torque is 80ft/lbs on lug nuts so don't let some moron hammer on them with an impact.
As for replacing them, you just need to pound them out and drive the new ones in, Lisle sells a $20 tool that has a bearing in it to help seat them properly but you can get by just using some washers to space out the lug nuts when you drive the new studs in.

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cusionedcoils

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 19, 2021

Well I did take it back, and the guy barely spoke English but there was someone there to interpret the conversation. .. at first it was 1 lug nut that broke off.. and another was going to break as well so I told him to try and take my tire off..he tried and said Its going to break, I told him I know....he tried to tell me he didn't do it someone else did. He said, look I'll show you let me take off another wheel I'll prove someone else damaged it. I told him hell no your not going to touch another tire I don't need more damage.. I said I'll take my tire off and you can show me.. he changed his mind and said nevermind.. So he went to call the owner of the place he was the only worker there came back and said he didn't get ahold of him.. I could see through the tented windows that he was on the phone for about 10 min... But he came.backntols me he would speak with the owner and let me know.. right before I left he tightened my lug nut after I told him not to touch my wheel again.. said he was making sure they were on good.. I left. Well then I was driving for about a week then it felt like my tire was going to come off...so I parked it in my drive and attempted to replace the 2 wheel studs and now 4 of my 5 studs broke off.. So I'm stuck in my driveway for about 4 days now.. but trying to fix it...and u know.. even if I wanted to have the shop fix it ..I can't move my car so..

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cusionedcoils

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 19, 2021

Nobutter69 said:
Yeah, first off, don't take off that big nut, your front bearings are pressed in, so if you take that nut off and try to pull off the hub you will be ruining the wheel bearing. You should be able to use a punch and hammer to knock the broken studs off, then feed the new ones in from the back.

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No there is a heat plate that covers the wheele studs .. the only way is if I remove the nut I think it will release the hub off enough to do that.. but there is no notch or gaP in heat shield for removal of anything you cannot see the studs at all..

cusionedcoils

Discussion Starter · #7 · Nov 19, 2021

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Can't access them have to remove the nut "I think" to get enough space to remove and replace

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bwdz75

· #8 · Nov 20, 2021

Take a pair of pliers and bend that back some, it is easier if you cut a little off, don't worry it won't hurt anything just use some wire cutters and take out a notch just large enough to slide them out, it will be tight but they will make it out. Taking off the big nut is a problem, it holds your axle but the hub is pressed into the wheel bearing. If you manage to get the hub loose you will have to take off the entire knuckle and bring the hub to a place with a press and have them replace the wheel bearing so don't do it. Also the torque on that nut is 205ft/lbs so if you do get a new wheel bearing or remove it you need a torque wrench that can read up to that to put the correct preload on the wheel bearing.

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rhysoul

· #9 · Nov 20, 2021

cusionedcoils said:
Can't access them have to remove the nut "I think" to get enough space to remove and replace View attachment 138317
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The big nut is the axle nut. The hub is pressed on and isn’t just going to plop out. You might have to bend that shield a little, but it looks like there are some reliefs in it. It might be a little tight but it’s possible.

Edit—-follow what bwdz said above. He explains it better.

cusionedcoils

Discussion Starter · #10 · Nov 20, 2021

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bwdz75

· #11 · Nov 20, 2021

Yes cut out a little notch there and they will come out. The new ones will be a little tight to go in as they are longer (not broken off) so you will need to tap them in with a hammer. Once it is in place, place some large washers on the stud and put the lug nut on and tighten the lug nut to press the splines into the hub, don't overdo it but make sure they are flush. When done just check your lug nuts on the wheel for a bit after a few short drives to make sure they are staying in and all is good.

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Soul.Master.007

· #12 · Nov 20, 2021

They Over Tightened them... They Should FIX THEM... Soul is only 70 Ft Lbs

quitthisnonsenser

· #13 · Nov 25, 2021

They broke them they should pay to have the DEALER fix them.. Sure wouldn't want to have them working on my car.

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JAC2012

· #14 · Dec 2, 2021

quitthisnonsenser said:
They broke them they should pay to have the DEALER fix them.. Sure wouldn't want to have them working on my car.

This reminds me of what happened at Lou Fusz Kia, in Creve Coeur, MO (suburban St. Louis): I was having them rotated, and the person at the counter tells me that someone cross threaded all my rear studs, and they would need to replace them, to the tune of about $700. She asked who had last worked on the wheels. I thought for a minute, and reminded her that it was them! So they went ahead and replaced the studs without charging me, right? WRONG! They remachined them (except for the one that the tech had cut off). So new parts when on my dime, repaired parts when on theirs.

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bwdz75

· #15 · Dec 2, 2021

It costs very little to replace the studs, they're a couple $ a piece and it takes no time to do it, at most a 1 hour labor charge.

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westslope

· #16 · Dec 3, 2021

bwdz75 said:
..... Torque is 80ft/lbs on lug nuts so don't let some moron hammer on them with an impact.
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Hilarious. Most DIYers know that but I suppose if one goes low enough on the auto repair food chain, some mechanics will tighten with an impact wrench.

FWIW, I never use the impact wrench if I am worried about cross-threading or similar.

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