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Monday, after coming back from picking up mail, noticed the ABS and Traction lights were on. Opened hood and yep there it was-a rats nest. Had it happen once before on a company car. Dropped car off at KIA dealer and they just called back and said need new main harness at the tune of $3400.00. They found at least areas on harness that were chewed. Promptly turned in Comp claim with State Farm as it is covered and have a $100 deductible. Now will have to wait for the claim adjuster to get to the shop and write their estimate and for dealer to get wiring harness in and installed.:frown:
 

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Was the car inside a garage nick? Last winter a friend had rats living under the hood of her BMW. They'd hop up at night to sleep (and whatever) on the nice warm engine block. Did a lot of electrical damage.

She put bait blocks near the battery, but they just kept coming like it was a Travelocity special or something.

They are disgusting.
 

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Most nests I've removed were under the engine cover. I probably should take it off for a few weeks because this is the time of year when they're looking for winter homes. Once they settle down for the winter -- elsewhere -- I can put it back on.

Bait blocks won't work because they take from two days to a week to kill the rodents. There's also the possibility of secondary toxicity with some rodenticides if a predator like a hawk or fox eats a poisoned mouse.
 

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Got a friend up the road a few miles.
They parked their 2015 Kia Soul in the garage and had some Hay in it.
Rats got on their motor and chewed up the wiring.
They took it to Lufkin to have it replaced. They replaced a lot of the wiring harness.
Think it was about 3800 dollars.
The insurance covered a lot of it.
But they was having problems. Seemed they couldn't get everything fixed.
Seems the dealer called them and said we are giving the car back to Kia. We can't get everything we need to properly repair it.
We have a new vehicle for you to come get.
They came back with a new same year Kia Soul.

Been hearing about some people having tall grass next to their driveway or a field with tall grass and the rats gettin on top of their motor and chewing up the wiring.
 

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I've had people tell me that animal repellents like predator urine sprayed on and around the car's parking space can help. I haven't tried it, however.
 

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Squirrels do this in Nebraska. Ate most of the wiring for the tail lights on my caddy. Ate up a friends battery cables on his Dakota twice, 2nd time started a fire. I left the Christmas lights up on my cedars one year till it got nice outside, it was real easy taking them down since there were no pieces longer than about 24".lol
 

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To answer some who have asked, no I don't have a garage. I park in our carport and live on our 3 1/2 acre heavily wooded lot. Sorry Geek, but I'm going to put out some Decon rat bait trays immediately around the deck(where they have gotten their nesting materials from) and behind the outside freezer. I have had this issue before and using Decon was the only way to solve it. I have had them fully pack the engine compartment(especially under engine cover) of my '02 Ford Explorer in the past.
 

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I have a friend that has a mobile boat repair business.
He had customers that had something getting in their boats & chewing up the wiring in boats. They got in the enclosed part if the boar houses & dug fiberglass Insulation out of the walls & took it on the boats to nest.
The customersin was blaming g it on squirrels.
But when on a job at a marina where the boats are out of the water on lifts, I was in a boat & seen gofer rats coming down threw the grass Yo the walk way & climbing in the boats.

They had to put packs of bait & trsps out trying to keep their pets frI'm getting into it.
Good Luck with your problem.
 

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I live out in the country and my garage is located in one-third section of a very old barn that is on our property but have problems with mice and the odd mole not rats getting in that area (also the odd squirrel and chipmunk). However, I have at least six traps set around the perimeter and catch them a regular basis till such time I never see them for weeks at a time, seems to vary by the time of the year. I use peanut butter for bait works great. Never had a problem with them getting in the Soul, but did encounter it once in my Rondo, but fortunately they only started on the firewall insulation slightly when I noticed it so no major problem, never happened again.
I've read that drying sheets will help, but no idea whether it works or not.

Nick - maybe you should enclose the carport. :sneakiness:
 

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I wonder if anyone with a Gen 2 Soul has had a rodent issue, since the engine bay has the under cover.
 

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The lil bztrds can get in anything . Drier sheets , peppermint oil bla bla bla , you have to kill them unfortunately , nothing else will detour them . Pack rats are the culprits in my neck of the woods . I put sticky/glue traps under the hoods of my vehicles that live outside .
 

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Just got the Soul back from the dealer with the new wiring harness-runs like a champ. Had to discuss the issue with State Farm as they wrote to use a reman harness instead of new OEM. Shop would have had to send in old damaged harness and wait for them to send the replacement. Advised State Farm that as the car is under warranty and as a 30+ year customer, I would be very displeased. They gave me no trouble after my agent contacted claims and immediately advised the shop to get new OEM. While the shop was at it, they did my free 3rd yr anniversary oil/filter change, free front wiper blades and free cabin filter.

Oh and the little s__ts have eaten a total of 8 dCon bait trays since this happened.
 

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Everyone is aware of the fact that rats and rodents can spread dangerous infections.The only practical solution is to hire CT pest control services. The professional exterminator services will assist in getting rid of the rats and prevent them from coming back.
 

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An interesting article from the Washington Post today:

Rats snack on tasty automobile wiring

By Karin Brulliard
The Washington Post
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WASHINGTON — The engine died immediately after Tess Klingenstein turned the key in her Honda Fit on a mild January day. When she tried again, she said, “every single alert light” flashed. The car was fairly new, so she was surprised. The mechanic who looked under the hood a few days later was not.

“ ‘You’ve had rats,’ ” Klingenstein, a speech-language pathologist in Washington, said he told her. The rodents had chewed wiring and defecated in air filters, causing $300 damage. “He said I had gotten off lucky.”

Very lucky. Rats, better known for inhabiting sewers and garbage bins, also love to settle in the innards of vehicles in cooler months. The warmth and shelter attract them, but it’s the wires and hoses that entertain them: Rats’ teeth grow constantly, and they gnaw on things to keep their teeth trim. Inside an engine bay, they can blow fuses, start fires and total cars.

No one tracks rat damage to cars, but there are signs it is a growing problem amid a nationwide rat population boom that experts say may be fueled by a warming climate. In the fall, rats set a sedan ablaze in Manhattan. They’ve mutilated the cars of college students in Florida. In recent years, a half-dozen class-action lawsuits have been filed against auto manufacturers on claims that today’s eco-friendlier wiring is irresistible to rodents. AAA warns that modern cars offer a “smorgasbord of treats” for rats.

“You take your car 20 to 30 years ago, they didn’t have that many wires,” said Bruce Jenkins, a service fleet manager for AAA’s mid-Atlantic Region. “Now you have wiring for everything. There’s so many different sensors and computers and modules.”

In the absence of official statistics, the best barometer for the scope of this issue may be San Diego resident David Albin, who calls himself “Rat King Dave.” Three years ago, he was a regular guy who worked in financial services and owned a house in a residential area. Then rats invaded the family cars — inflicting $2,500 in damage to his Honda Civic, $9,300 to his wife’s Hyundai Sonata — and Albin became obsessed with rat deterrence. He has since outlined his strategy on a website (How-ToPreventRatsFromEating-CarWires.com) and in an e-book (“Let’s Get Them Rats!”).

“It seems like every year, more and more people have this problem,” Albin said. “And the rats keep multiplying.”

Rats are not the only animals capable of dismembering cars. Marmots are known to wreak havoc on the cars of visitors to Kings Canyon and Sequoia National Parks in California, and weasels have forced automakers in Germany to fund defense research. Vultures strip rubber from vehicles, and a class-action suit against Honda described a rabbit “still chewing the wiring while the car was at the dealership” for repairs.

Rats, however, are the major perpetrators in cities such as Washington, which President Donald Trump calls a swamp, but which often seems more like a vast rat burrow. Complaints to the city about rats have soared in recent years — nowhere more than in Klingenstein’s Park View neighborhood — and officials have waged war using solar-powered trash cans and dry ice.

The rats appear to be winning.

They evicted Erica Spencer, 35, from the basement apartment where she paid extra for an alley parking space near food-filled garbage bins, for example. After detecting a burning odor while driving her 2003 Ford Explorer, she discovered a rat nest under the hood, made of “a panty liner and just gross, gross stuff.” Poison did not help, nor did repellent packets that smelled of mint, which the culprits simply used to pad the next nest. After rats chewed more than $3,000 worth of damage, Spencer surrendered.

“I had a moment of selfdiscovery that I shouldn’t be living in a place with so many rats. I could afford a better quality of life for myself,” said Spencer, an attorney. She moved to a condo building with garage parking, but she kept the Explorer. “We call it the ratmobile. It basically has no factory parts left in the engine.”

A rat died under the hood of Morgan Finkelstein’s car, and others destroyed her boyfriend’s vehicle. The boyfriend — who declined to be interviewed because he works in politics — already knew his Ford Focus had rat damage when he parked it behind their apartment for months while he worked on an out-of-state election in 2018. When he returned, it wouldn’t start. The car’s “carcass” sat there for more than a year, Finkelstein said, because tow trucks could not get around a tight corner to haul it away.

“I don’t think we were aware of the gravity of the situation,” said Finkelstein, 29, who works at a think tank. “It was like a rat palace in the car. They had completely taken it over. They were the kings now.”

Blame is often cast on the soy-based wiring insulation that many auto manufacturers use, which is considered ecologically sounder than the petroleum-derived insulation it replaced. Lawsuits have argued that it is also tastier to rodents and therefore defective, and that car warranties should cover rodent damage. Defendants have countered that warranties do not cover damage from “environmental conditions” and, as Toyota wrote in one court filing, that “rodents chew on things, whether soy-flavored or not.” Judges have sided with the companies.

Comprehensive auto insurance typically covers such damage after deductibles are met. To help drivers avoid reaching that point, several products claim to deter rats. There is the RatMat, an electrified tile system that can be placed under a car. An underhood contraption with “ultrasonic” waves and LED flashlights gets solid reviews on Amazon. Peppermint oils, supposedly offensive to rats, abound. Honda even offers “rodent tape” treated with hot pepper extract to wrap around wires for protection — a product the lawsuits depicted as an admission of guilt.

Albin, the self-described rat king, said he frantically researched all options after rats laid siege to his family’s cars. He began “trying to figure out how rats think,” he said, and checking his traps in the middle of the night. After trial and error, he found a multipronged method that he says works.

Among other measures, Albin leaves his car hoods up every night during winter. He patrols daily for rat droppings, and at first sign, he places peanut-butter-baited snap traps at the bases and sometimes tops of his tires. He spritzes the engine compartment with peppermint spray. In desperate times, he places a spotlight under his car, because rats prefer darkness. The “cherry on top,” he says, is positioning an owl decoy nearby, but he warns that rats quickly get wise.
 
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An interesting article from the Washington Post today:

Rats snack on tasty automobile wiring

By Karin Brulliard
The Washington Post
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WASHINGTON — The engine died immediately after Tess Klingenstein turned the key in her Honda Fit on a mild January day. When she tried again, she said, “every single alert light” flashed. The car was fairly new, so she was surprised. The mechanic who looked under the hood a few days later was not.

“ ‘You’ve had rats,’ ” Klingenstein, a speech-language pathologist in Washington, said he told her. The rodents had chewed wiring and defecated in air filters, causing $300 damage. “He said I had gotten off lucky.”

Very lucky. Rats, better known for inhabiting sewers and garbage bins, also love to settle in the innards of vehicles in cooler months. The warmth and shelter attract them, but it’s the wires and hoses that entertain them: Rats’ teeth grow constantly, and they gnaw on things to keep their teeth trim. Inside an engine bay, they can blow fuses, start fires and total cars.

No one tracks rat damage to cars, but there are signs it is a growing problem amid a nationwide rat population boom that experts say may be fueled by a warming climate. In the fall, rats set a sedan ablaze in Manhattan. They’ve mutilated the cars of college students in Florida. In recent years, a half-dozen class-action lawsuits have been filed against auto manufacturers on claims that today’s eco-friendlier wiring is irresistible to rodents. AAA warns that modern cars offer a “smorgasbord of treats” for rats.

“You take your car 20 to 30 years ago, they didn’t have that many wires,” said Bruce Jenkins, a service fleet manager for AAA’s mid-Atlantic Region. “Now you have wiring for everything. There’s so many different sensors and computers and modules.”

In the absence of official statistics, the best barometer for the scope of this issue may be San Diego resident David Albin, who calls himself “Rat King Dave.” Three years ago, he was a regular guy who worked in financial services and owned a house in a residential area. Then rats invaded the family cars — inflicting $2,500 in damage to his Honda Civic, $9,300 to his wife’s Hyundai Sonata — and Albin became obsessed with rat deterrence. He has since outlined his strategy on a website (How-ToPreventRatsFromEating-CarWires.com) and in an e-book (“Let’s Get Them Rats!”).

“It seems like every year, more and more people have this problem,” Albin said. “And the rats keep multiplying.”

Rats are not the only animals capable of dismembering cars. Marmots are known to wreak havoc on the cars of visitors to Kings Canyon and Sequoia National Parks in California, and weasels have forced automakers in Germany to fund defense research. Vultures strip rubber from vehicles, and a class-action suit against Honda described a rabbit “still chewing the wiring while the car was at the dealership” for repairs.

Rats, however, are the major perpetrators in cities such as Washington, which President Donald Trump calls a swamp, but which often seems more like a vast rat burrow. Complaints to the city about rats have soared in recent years — nowhere more than in Klingenstein’s Park View neighborhood — and officials have waged war using solar-powered trash cans and dry ice.

The rats appear to be winning.

They evicted Erica Spencer, 35, from the basement apartment where she paid extra for an alley parking space near food-filled garbage bins, for example. After detecting a burning odor while driving her 2003 Ford Explorer, she discovered a rat nest under the hood, made of “a panty liner and just gross, gross stuff.” Poison did not help, nor did repellent packets that smelled of mint, which the culprits simply used to pad the next nest. After rats chewed more than $3,000 worth of damage, Spencer surrendered.

“I had a moment of selfdiscovery that I shouldn’t be living in a place with so many rats. I could afford a better quality of life for myself,” said Spencer, an attorney. She moved to a condo building with garage parking, but she kept the Explorer. “We call it the ratmobile. It basically has no factory parts left in the engine.”

A rat died under the hood of Morgan Finkelstein’s car, and others destroyed her boyfriend’s vehicle. The boyfriend — who declined to be interviewed because he works in politics — already knew his Ford Focus had rat damage when he parked it behind their apartment for months while he worked on an out-of-state election in 2018. When he returned, it wouldn’t start. The car’s “carcass” sat there for more than a year, Finkelstein said, because tow trucks could not get around a tight corner to haul it away.

“I don’t think we were aware of the gravity of the situation,” said Finkelstein, 29, who works at a think tank. “It was like a rat palace in the car. They had completely taken it over. They were the kings now.”

Blame is often cast on the soy-based wiring insulation that many auto manufacturers use, which is considered ecologically sounder than the petroleum-derived insulation it replaced. Lawsuits have argued that it is also tastier to rodents and therefore defective, and that car warranties should cover rodent damage. Defendants have countered that warranties do not cover damage from “environmental conditions” and, as Toyota wrote in one court filing, that “rodents chew on things, whether soy-flavored or not.” Judges have sided with the companies.

Comprehensive auto insurance typically covers such damage after deductibles are met. To help drivers avoid reaching that point, several products claim to deter rats. There is the RatMat, an electrified tile system that can be placed under a car. An underhood contraption with “ultrasonic” waves and LED flashlights gets solid reviews on Amazon. Peppermint oils, supposedly offensive to rats, abound. Honda even offers “rodent tape” treated with hot pepper extract to wrap around wires for protection — a product the lawsuits depicted as an admission of guilt.

Albin, the self-described rat king, said he frantically researched all options after rats laid siege to his family’s cars. He began “trying to figure out how rats think,” he said, and checking his traps in the middle of the night. After trial and error, he found a multipronged method that he says works.

Among other measures, Albin leaves his car hoods up every night during winter. He patrols daily for rat droppings, and at first sign, he places peanut-butter-baited snap traps at the bases and sometimes tops of his tires. He spritzes the engine compartment with peppermint spray. In desperate times, he places a spotlight under his car, because rats prefer darkness. The “cherry on top,” he says, is positioning an owl decoy nearby, but he warns that rats quickly get wise.
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