2017 Base/auto, Shadow Black (Betsy)
I don't have any quibbles about how they review products, or the new KIA Soul. They're not an auto enthusiast magazine, and review from an overall average perspective of all drivers. The Soul isn't really everyone's cup of tea, although it suits a wide range of drivers.I think Consumer Reports does a good job. There is no other organization like it for review of any product. They purchase all their vehicles and also except no advertisements in their magazine, therefore are not influenced by manufacturers.
They have the facilities to thoroughly test a product and also get feedback from hundreds of thousands of consumers to give you a better overall view of that item - not one persons opinion.
I subscribe to the magazine (yearly gift from my daughter) and every few months I get asked to fill out a survey, not just on my vehicle but sometimes on other items - TV's, fridges, stoves, etc.
There was a written report in August issue of the 2020 Soul EX, where they gave it an overall score of 76:
Highs - braking, controls, easy to get in and out of passenger space
Lows - ride, loud engine, base trim lacks advanced and safety features\
Fuel - 28 mpg on regular
Elantra GT (2.0L) - 74
Toyota C-HR XLE - 68
Nissan Kicks SV - 64
Consumer Reports has ALWAYS had a pay wall, so to speak, because it is a magazine that has always been advertising-free. Cooks Illustrated adipted that model. This way, they can convince the reader (who has a stake in what CR or CI says) that their opinions are unbiased. For them, reputation is everything.$9 a month just to read this review? I don't think so. Consumer Reports makes a big mistake by putting up a paywall on its product reviews. I won't pay, and I can find reviews elsewhere that don't pick my pocket. Phooey!
I think it depends how deep you want to dive into "details" of a specific car and/or their report on it.The Soul is not for everyone and neither is CR going to be. I used to use them for everything, researched all my most big important buys and their are opinions were in the mix. What got me away from them is timeliness. Before the internet was available, one would have to wait until CR published a review or comparison of say dish washers in order to use them.
In the car area, CR has, at least to me, had an unavoidable bias toward the Japanese manufacturers. That may have been justified but at the time, it was long ago, they never took into consideration that fact the Japanese car dealers were charging premiums to purchase their cars because "they could". That turned me off to them and except for a Toyota Matrix that my wife wanted and older trucks, all used, I have not owned one of them.
I still think that they could be beneficial but I gleam enough info off the internet to make the decisions and that includes snippets from CR. I have always had the feeling that they are a bit snobbish but I was too at the time. I think Conwelpic may be too but I still bow down to his knowledge and value his options.
A few mistakes but not all that bad. However, every time I see one of these, I cringe when they remind one that there are no real performance upgrades between the trims other than the GT Turbo. I wonder why they don't say anything about the older generation buyers though; they are a significant portion of the buyers.
Not according to Consumer Reports. They said "the ride feels stiff and jittery, even on smooth pavement."
- Good point. I saw a big performance boost from my 2013 base model. Plus a lot less noise and road irregularity transmission. The 2020 is definitely a more refined ride.
Well, since I drove a 2013 for seven years and now am driving a 2020, I'm well qualified to compare the two, I think. My 2020 is not jittery. Perhaps their review Soul had over-inflated tires, like mine did before I checked them. Who can say?Not according the Consumer Reports. They said "the ride feels stiff and jittery, even on smooth pavement."
So I wonder which one it is?
When I took delivery on my 2020 LX, its ride seemed a bit harsh, transmitting every road irregularity into the cabin. Playing with the switch on the right side of the steering wheel, I called up the tire pressure display. 50 psi in all tires! They had not brought tire pressures down from the shipping overinflation during dealer prep. I grabbed my trusty pressure gauge and reduced all four wheels to 34 psi. The change in road feel was remarkable.If the gen 3 is "stiff and jittery" then gen 1's were bone jarring and filling loosening by comparison.
With 7 years in our 2012 I also think I'm well equipped to draw some comparisons.
The 2020 by comparison feels well planted and more stable when thrown into turns.
While the ride may not be glass smooth stiff and jittery seems a bit excessive I.M.O.
Quite simply is is a nice evolution of the model since its introduction and is pretty much where one would expect it to be at this juncture.
All new yet somehow quite familiar with improvements abound and a few steps backwards here or there.