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    Exclamation Replacing the Stock speakers?

    I listen to a lot of techno/dance/club music and some hip hop in my SOUL. But, for certain songs, the bass sounds HORRIBLE and it knocks. So, i've been thinking about getting new speakers installed. I don't want a sub or amp or anything because i don't want that loud, rattling, vibrating crap in my car. So, I work at Best Buy, and i was talking to one of the car install guys at my store and he said that it WOULDN'T void my warranty.

    But, I wanted the opinion of fellow SOUL owners who may have already changed their speakers, who have experienced this situation.

    Would replacing ONLY the speakers void my warranty or anything? Would it cause any problems?

    Thanks in advance!

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    the only bit of the warranty that would be voided would be the speakers... and you are replacing them anyway..... its the mechanical changes you need to be careful with.
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    Make sure the speakers are replaced with speakers of similar "load (ohms rating) so you don't overload the amp(s). If you show that you've replaced the speakers with "like" speakers, and had it done professionally, you're golden. If you do it yourself, even, but can show that it was done correctly (take pictures and keep the specs - and do ti correctly, with proper connectors, not just twisting the wires around the terminals and securing with duct tape) your warranty will be 100% intact - except the aftermarket speakers, of course, which would have their own warranty,
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    Adding better speakers without pairing it with a better amp will NOT make your music sound better...it may even sound worse (especially at high volumes). Better speakers invariably need more power than the factory amp can provide. Also, the vast majority of car speakers run at 4 ohms and the factory amp is optimized for 2 ohm speakers.

    What this means is that if you buy some good quality speakers (e.g. some Alpines Type R's) that require around 80 watts RMS, and hook them up to the factory amp, the speakers will only get about 10 watts RMS!!!!

    If you want better speakers, start looking for an amp too.

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    Evo, I know what you are saying, but if you do things correctly, you won't need a new amp. I replaced my speakers with high quality Polk Audio speakers with the same ohm rating as the stock. Holy crap. I was ready to invest in a new amp, but after replacing the speaker and adding dynamat, I don't feel a need.


    Quote Originally Posted by Evo1 View Post

    What this means is that if you buy some good quality speakers (e.g. some Alpines Type R's) that require around 80 watts RMS, and hook them up to the factory amp, the speakers will only get about 10 watts RMS!!!!
    ....I don't think so. If the ohms are the same, it won't matter what the RMS is. You could have 200 watt RMS, but if it's the same Ohm rating, then the amp will be pushing the same amount of power. If you have a lower resistance, then yes, but not if you keep the resistance of speakers the same.

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    how do you remove the stock sub in the back? I am having trouble with taking the plastic cover off

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfergiez View Post


    ....I don't think so. If the ohms are the same, it won't matter what the RMS is. You could have 200 watt RMS, but if it's the same Ohm rating, then the amp will be pushing the same amount of power. If you have a lower resistance, then yes, but not if you keep the resistance of speakers the same.

    In my example, the speakers are 4 ohms, meaning that the 20 or so watts that the amp delivers will be cut in half. I was under the impression that, like the sub, the door speakers are at 2 ohms. Is that not the case?

    What kind of Polks did you use? I'm not aware of any 6.5" polks that can be adequately powered by 10 or 20 watts RMS

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    Ok I found the spec sheet and apparently only the sub and center channel are 2 ohms and everything else is 4....however, if the tweeter and front doors are on the same channel in parallel then they're final load to the amp is 2 ohms.

    Either way, you need a very efficient (or small) speaker to be adequately powered with at most 20 continuous watts. In my experience, it's not enough to drive good aftermarket speakers to their potential.

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    I did it a while back, I'll have to look them up again. I'll tell you this though, they made a WORLD of difference.

    @andrew, you need to removed the rear seat, and remove the plastics all around the spare tire. The speaker grille alone is not removable. You have to take that whole mass of plastic off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evo1 View Post
    Adding better speakers without pairing it with a better amp will NOT make your music sound better...it may even sound worse (especially at high volumes). Better speakers invariably need more power than the factory amp can provide. Also, the vast majority of car speakers run at 4 ohms and the factory amp is optimized for 2 ohm speakers.

    What this means is that if you buy some good quality speakers (e.g. some Alpines Type R's) that require around 80 watts RMS, and hook them up to the factory amp, the speakers will only get about 10 watts RMS!!!!

    If you want better speakers, start looking for an amp too.
    I think this has DEFINITELY helped me out a lot. Thank you, for this. Because I was dead set on just getting new speakers, nothing else. Even though kfergiez has a point as well, I think it'd be best to get the amp JUST IN CASE. Better safe than sorry, eh?

    Thanks to all of you for your input!

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