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View Poll Results: What type of oil is in your soul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straitjacket_Jimmy View Post
    ...In other words, nothing you ever do with your car will ever require you to need synthetic oil. You will never subject it to any conditions in which the "properties" of synthetic are ever needed....
    Look, use whatever oil you want. It doesn't matter. But don't be delusional in believing you're somehow better off because you bought synthetic because you aren't. In a passenger vehicle, it will never matter. Never. It simply won't, and years of testing has proven this...Trust me...10 years from now, if your engine and my engine both had 100,000 miles on them, and were to be examined for wear and tear, there would be zero difference. None. Zilch. Tests have proven this fact.
    Actually, testing has shown a big difference in oils...especially when they age.

    I used to work for an auto company. We had a chemical engineer who worked in the lubrication area. I spoke with him about synthetic vs. conventional oils. He said the HUGE difference between synthetic oils, and standard oils is all the imperfections and additives in the oil you DON'T want. These cause early crosslinking and breakdown of the oils properties. He said brand new, the difference between the oils would be nearly immeasurable. But, after a little time at temperature the conventional oil will break down at an accelerating rate compared to the synthetic because of the contamination that was always in the oil to begin with. After maybe a thousand miles, the difference between conventional and synthetic oils becomes very measureable. Near the end of life, the conventional oil would not pass any of the tests he ran, while the synthetic would be holding up quite well.

    The bottom line, if you change your oil every 1000 miles it will make much less difference than if you change your oil every 5000 miles. So you can change the oil more often and spend more with conventional oil or you can just live with the added engine wear. Or you can use synthetic and back off on your oil changes and actually save money.

    I do agree that most people will have other engine problems....or other system problems, that will cause them to get rid of their car long before the main bearings or rings wear out.

    One other suggestion. Spend money to buy a decent oil filter like a Wix or MobilOne. Stay away from Fram filters, they are the bottom of the barrel junk. There are plenty of stories of the cheap glued ends failing on Fram filters and destroying engines.
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    I do not have my Soul yet but I run Penzoil Platinum 5w30 in my cars

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    royal purple 5w-30; drained the factory oil @ 1500 miles on the Soul. Also added "ZMax" to oil and gas.

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    Agree + Agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Disaster View Post
    Actually, testing has shown a big difference in oils...especially when they age.

    I used to work for an auto company. We had a chemical engineer who worked in the lubrication area. I spoke with him about synthetic vs. conventional oils. He said the HUGE difference between synthetic oils, and standard oils is all the imperfections and additives in the oil you DON'T want. These cause early crosslinking and breakdown of the oils properties. He said brand new, the difference between the oils would be nearly immeasurable. But, after a little time at temperature the conventional oil will break down at an accelerating rate compared to the synthetic because of the contamination that was always in the oil to begin with. After maybe a thousand miles, the difference between conventional and synthetic oils becomes very measureable. Near the end of life, the conventional oil would not pass any of the tests he ran, while the synthetic would be holding up quite well.

    The bottom line, if you change your oil every 1000 miles it will make much less difference than if you change your oil every 5000 miles. So you can change the oil more often and spend more with conventional oil or you can just live with the added engine wear. Or you can use synthetic and back off on your oil changes and actually save money.

    I do agree that most people will have other engine problems....or other system problems, that will cause them to get rid of their car long before the main bearings or rings wear out.

    One other suggestion. Spend money to buy a decent oil filter like a Wix or MobilOne. Stay away from Fram filters, they are the bottom of the barrel junk. There are plenty of stories of the cheap glued ends failing on Fram filters and destroying engines.

    Despite a lot of the "its a proven fact" assertions from people I'd not trust to get me a dozen eggs from the grocery, I "Think" my experiences with SYN oils have been better than with conventionals for a couple reasons.

    The biggest one, is I spent 20 winters in Interior Alaska, where our AM starting temps were often -30 F or lower. Plugged in or not, most of my cars and trucks WOULD start with SYN and not crank fast enuf with Conventional. BANG ! STart up wear would be hell for those running conventional, and they'd sound like a junkyard in motion till they completely warmed up. Part of the wear I resolved by running some OIL in the gas like I did 2 cycles and never noticed an issue, PERIOD. WEAR -> truthfully I never kept a vehicle up there long enuf to measure cause a lot of the ragged vehicles I was running, would die from something else including moose hits. Mileage - here and in the Lower 48, I thought I noticed decreased internal friction in the engine and hence marginally better mileage, perhaps 5%, but cannot at this time, prove it.

    My experience, I think, was that my vehicles did better on SYN oils than conventional, including my Volvo 2.4 Diesel, which I ran on SYN.

    I'd like to know your thoughts on running Semi-SYN, in a cold winter environment like ONTARIO, vs a Full SyN, and what Change Interval you would consider. I do 80-90% Hiway commuting, 25-30 miles one way at 65 MPH for the bulk of my driving and 10% 2 Lane Back roads at 50 MPH and the rest City or Town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denaliguide View Post
    I'd like to know your thoughts on running Semi-SYN, in a cold winter environment like ONTARIO, vs a Full SyN, and what Change Interval you would consider. I do 80-90% Hiway commuting, 25-30 miles one way at 65 MPH for the bulk of my driving and 10% 2 Lane Back roads at 50 MPH and the rest City or Town.
    my dealer uses semi-synthetic as normal oil 5w/20 for my oil changes. However, in the past I usually used regular oil 10w30 or 5w30 with no problems living here in southern eastern Ontario. If the temperature drops dramatically, like when we used to live in Alberta I just plugged in the block heater. Never had any need for one living in this part of Ontario.

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    I purchase my oil from Walmart and use Mobile one 0-20 Advance Fuel Economy . 0-20 AFE & 5-20 basic are the same price at Wally world... $25 bucks for 5 quarts.... I get my Wix oil filters from O'Reilly for app. 7 bucks....

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    Wix are great filters...much, better quality than Fram. I'll pick up MobilOne filters when Wix aren't available...but they are considerably more expensive.

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    For many years, I've used nothing but Castrol GTX oil, various weights for different vehicles, but all were run here in FL. where it's HOT most of the year.

    Just got my Soul today and the dealer has me scheduled for my first FREE oil change three months from today. It will be interesting to see what oil they put in.

    Cheers Mates!
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    Switched to Castrol Edge Syntec full synthetic 5w-20 to increase my oci's (oil change intervals) immediately lost 2mpg (per info center) which makes no sense.
    Car only 22k on the ticker with no other changes in driving style or temps.
    Even filled up at 4 different gas stations thinking maybe that was it. Not
    So I thought I'd be saving money in addition to extended oci's. Ends up I'm now I'm losing money Coinkydink??
    2011 Silver Sport buncha goodies

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