Well, I am back...
I am suffering from sensory shock right now, if the car had the WS and SS packages I would be in total meltdown and sensory overload. Here are some highlights (sorry, pictures to come):
- They gave me the military discount with no questions;
- The sales guy then asked the big question, "Are you paying cash?" My response was, "I am unless you guys pay me to finance." He did not know about that but said he would check. Came back in a few minutes and told me that they would pay me 500 to take out a Kia loan, so it is financed for 36 months at 2.9%. We will see how long that lasts. So now I just got 900.00 more off the deal. Thanks everyone for the advice.
- I then asked about the referral bonus and got a negative reaction. Seems to do that you have to start the deal all over again. I did not want to go through any chance to allow them to wiggle around so I said, "Well since you guys threw in the Spare tire and the all weather mats for nothing, I will not pursue that option." So I really think I got more of that exchange and it was worth it to not upset the apple cart for the 200 referral fee.
So I calculate that I got the car for some 3600 less than their original offer and 700 (broker's discount) - 500 (loan incentive) - 400 (military incentive) or 1600 off MSRP plus the added 200 for the spare and who knows what for the all weather mats, or course I now have the extra set of carpet mats that they did charge me 115.00 for. In addition when they did the math with the finance deal, the numbers came out that there was another 100 off for who knows what. I did not say anything but the 900 off was now suddenly 1000 off. I did not say anything but let it go. But now I have to pay it off in 30 days and the dealership even told me to do that if I wanted to. I asked them what that did to their kick backs, wouldn't they lose that if I paid it off early and they said, "Yes, but so what?".
When going through the car, the guide got to the ECO button which they recommended that I leave on all the time (they did not do that before). He told me that the ECO on the 2014 was a little different than before in that it restricts fuel flow to two cylinders when at a cruising speed. I did not know that so I will be playing with the button again to see. He also told me that if the ECO button was engaged to expect there to be a slight hesitation when taking off in first gear. Seems we have heard this before. When I asked how he knew that, he said he didn't but that KIA told them to tell purchasers of the 2014 cars that will happen. It kind of makes you wonder about some dealers that shrug their shoulders.