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    AirMillerr44 I saw at my dealer an actual cutaway of KIA's filter and had been think of posting the picture here. The service manager said it had a "check" valve in it which he explained doesn't allow the oil to drain back in the filter so more oil is available when 1st started where it's needed in the engine. I will be using the filter from the dealer whether I change the oil or have it changed. You're ok on the warranty changing the oil yourself but keep all receipts and tab from filter. Also keep log book with date and pertinent info. I have what looks to be a nifty record book on order for this purpose. Google " Girot's Garage" if interested. I have approximately 2800 on mine and considering going slightly beyond the "Severe Duty Schedule" and changing at 3000-3750 at least in the summer because its so hot even though I'm not really in frequent heavy traffic. Regarding Amsoil vs Mobil One they both appear to be good choices with Amsoil being the better albeit more expensive choice from what I gather. Check this link & read all postshttp://www.kiasoulforums.com/showthread.php?t=2226&highlight=change/

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    AirMiller44 last post appear to all I could write so wanted to let you know to check page 2 of the forum links and check out "SoberOne's' post for this link.
    http://www.motor-oil-engineers.com/M...eers%20PDF.pdf
    It was very informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Stoic View Post
    AirMillerr44 I saw at my dealer an actual cutaway of KIA's filter and had been think of posting the picture here. The service manager said it had a "check" valve in it which he explained doesn't allow the oil to drain back in the filter so more oil is available when 1st started where it's needed in the engine. I will be using the filter from the dealer whether I change the oil or have it changed. You're ok on the warranty changing the oil yourself but keep all receipts and tab from filter. Also keep log book with date and pertinent info. I have what looks to be a nifty record book on order for this purpose. Google " Girot's Garage" if interested. I have approximately 2800 on mine and considering going slightly beyond the "Severe Duty Schedule" and changing at 3000-3750 at least in the summer because its so hot even though I'm not really in frequent heavy traffic. Regarding Amsoil vs Mobil One they both appear to be good choices with Amsoil being the better albeit more expensive choice from what I gather. Check this link & read all postshttp://www.kiasoulforums.com/showthread.php?t=2226&highlight=change/

    Thanks for the info I appreciate it.
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    I also ran into the "we don't have that filter" from the goodyear service garage. So I went to the dealer and purchased the Kia "soul" filter, part # 26300-35503. The parts guy informed me that kia only makes a couple of oil filters, this one and the other being a cartridge filter. Bought 3 of them, paid 8$ a piece. Airmiller, you got a deal!

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    I'm letting the dealer do the first oil change bwteen 3500 and 3700 miles this will allow them to get the factory oil filter off.(some times they don't know how tight they put them on) The I will change to Royal Purple (yes expensive but worth the effort) and change right on scheudual every 7500 miles. Filter will be a K&N filte(part # HD-1004). Everybody has an opinion so check it out for yourself and you can make the decision that want.

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    This same filter the Soul uses , also fits the 2.4 4cyl used in the Hyundai Sonata , and like I stated before the Elantra , and no tellin how many more .
    You should be able to get this filter any where .... people just freak out when you say 2010 Kia Soul .

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    very hard to find any place that sells any kia soul parts.... found this global kia site but nothing for soul there yet but may wanna bookmark b/c they have to add the soul at some point https://www.globalkiaparts.com/oem-kia-parts.html

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    Just an aside:

    Almost every oil filter sold today has an anti-drainback valve that keeps more oil available on startup. This isn't a Kia specific feature.
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    Here is a good thread over at ElantraXD.com that talks about oil filters for the 2.0 Beta II.

    A quick summary:
    . (At least in the past) Fram is junk and can fry your engine.
    . The L14459 Purolator filter is as good as the OEM and here is why:

    Specifications:
    Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
    Height: 2.95
    O.D.: 3.15
    Relief Valve P.S.I.: 12-15
    Threads: M20x1.5
    Type of Filter: Spin-on

    The relief valve pressure is critical. Basically, this valve opens up when high oil flow is demanded (hard acceleration), allowing the oil to bypass the filter element to make sure there is enough oil available to lube everything (even though it is unfiltered during the high demand period.... but better than no oil at all). The Purolator filter, like the OEM filter, has a 12-15 PSI activation pressure.

    Here's the bad thing: A Honda filter also has an M20x1.5 threaded spin-on base and will fit on a Hyundai or Kia. However, the Honda relief valve pressure is 14-18 PSI. What this means is that it may not open quickly enough to keep a Hyundai/Kia engine happy. If you have this filter on your car, you can fry your engine due to oil starvation. AND... some oil filter companies (like Fram, at least in the past) used the same filter for both Honda applications and Hyundai/Kia applications. So even though they said it was good for our cars, the filter did not meet OEM specs and could fry an engine. Hyundai even put out a Tech Service Bulletin on the subject (click here). The last line in the TSB states, "This is not a warranty repair."

    Bottom line: If you want to keep your warranty intact, be very careful about the oil filter you use. I would never take my Hyundai anywhere but a dealer or my own garage for an oil change becuase it's just too easy for a oil change place to put a Honda filter on a Hyundai or Kia by mistake (or because they are too lazy to stock both filters).

    One other thing: Be similarly careful about automatic transmission fluids. If the Soul is the same as the Elantra, the owners manual says something like "Use HYUNDAI GENUINE ATF SP III, DIAMOND ATF SP III, SK ATF SP III or other brands approved by Hyundai
    Motor Co." Here is a TSB on that subject. Note that AMSOIL is not approved. NO UNIVERSAL fluids are approved. They contain detergents required by either Mercon or Dexron that will actually disolve some parts in your torque converter, killing your transmission.

    No, you don't have to use genuine OEM parts on your car for service. But... if you use parts that do not meet the manufacturer's specifications, and then the engine or transmission fails, your warranty will NOT cover the repairs.

    On the Hyundai Elantra forums, blown transmissions and engines have two causes: (1) using the wrong oil filter/transmission fluid, or (2) turbocharging the engine. Both of these are obviously abusive conditions to the car and the warranty will not apply. But if you properly maintain the car with with the right oil filter and transmission fluid, these cars are pretty much bulletproof.



    Just sayin'.
    Last edited by Doohickie; 09-03-2009 at 05:00 AM.

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